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Ive been using these front ends for a while now and there are constant issues.
Ive switched to http://odysee.com
its now ad free, and Ive found that: mental outlaw, Louis Rossman, someordinarygamers, Brodie Robertson, tech lore, switched to linux, the Linux cast and loads of others are also on the platform.
Odysee is not a YouTube front end, is a hot spring for hate content and misinformation, was financially mismanaged, and was recently sold for parts to a blockchain company whose primary goal is bolstering its own blockchain
The blockchaim & finance topic doesn't really affect me, as long as I can use it for watching videos then it works. (and I'm not helping google)
In regards to the hate content, I would rather have the ability to self censor these things (mute/block) then have the platform itself decide what I am allowed to see.
I think the main problem with allowing hate content is how it fosters harassment to those who are against their narratives.
As with every platform, even Youtube. Bc even the most advanced algorithmic moderation has its limits (i.e. they can't pick up steganography nor subtle/creative language; in best case scenario, YT algorithms can barely understand a Caesar ciphered text), so it'd need manual reviewing, but there's the catch: a platform can't have strict manual reviewing AND be free, because human moderators have their costs. When a platform gets troublesome with excessive ads or oversensitive filters (Tom Scott has an excellent video regarding the problem with "vulgarity filters" when they're set to pick up any "forbidden" words amidist a text without considering their context; e.g. a content that says about "cumulative sum" (a mathematical and statistical concept) gets blocked because how the three initial letters form a vulgar word, and this could get worse if one's talking about NumPy's method), two kinds of people will tend to migrate platforms: those who simply have zero patience with intrusive ads/excessive filtering (imagine a PHP developer not being able to upload/search for a video that uses the PHP function that breaks a string into array, because the function name is "explode()" and it could be seen by filters as "violence"), and those who want to distillate their hatred. If there's a sufficiently well-known alternative platform, both kinds of people will tend to migrate there, until hate content becomes a gigantic problem and the platform starts to employ human moderators, turning the service into a costly service that'll either need to be paid or need to have ads (except if they somehow manage to work the services through volunteering, such as GNU). Odysee is one of a myriad of video platforms where anyone can create an account and upload any video. Odysee is not the first only containing "dangerous contents" and neither will be the last.
What if I want to watch something other than the people who always show up at the top of the Youtube technology category page, or venture capitalist-funded yoga videos summoned to create the impression somebody is home?