Those Russian soldiers are really poor guys - they were in trenches 5 days without food and water. They haven’t washed for month. They are in Ukrainian captivity right now where good conditions are waiting for them.

Ці російські солдати справді бідні хлопці – вони 5 днів сиділи в окопах без їжі та води. Місяць не милися. Зараз вони в українському полоні, де на них чекають хороші умови.

Эти бойцы ВС РФ действительно бедные ребята – они 5 дней сидели в окопах без еды и воды. Месяц не мылись. Сейчас они в украинском плену, где их ждут хорошие условия.

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[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you implying the video is fake, like they aren’t Russian captives? Or are you implying that the Russian captives are lying?

The fact that Russian captives are saying anything beyond name, rank, and serial number while obviously being recorded is already a huge L for russian military training and discipline.

[–] nebulaone@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Dont put words in my mouth. I didn't claim any of these things.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago

So what were you trying to say when you said “… videos like this should be taken with a grain of salt. There is propaganda on both sides.”?

I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but you’re very obviously trying to imply something there, so just say it.

For the record I made it very clear that I was asking you what you were implying, I doubt any rational person would read anything in my previous comment as putting words in your mouth.

[–] alslater@hachyderm.io 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

@nebulaone @borari No one put words in your mouth. Just asked simple questions.

[–] nebulaone@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is a reason this was recorded and posted online. I don't think it is fake. But I also don't believe that every POW recieves the same treatment.

[–] alslater@hachyderm.io 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@nebulaone Why not?

[–] alslater@hachyderm.io 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@nebulaone You have evidence otherwise?

[–] nebulaone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This will be my last reply. I can believe whatever I want. And as I said I want Ukraine to win. I am not some russian troll if that's what you're getting at.

[–] alslater@hachyderm.io 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@nebulaone I am not getting at anything. I do not dispute your right to believe what you want, just interested if you had anything to support the idea that ruzzians were being mistreated by Ukraine. I have not seen anything to support that.

[–] smokeysnilas@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In a war you rarely have independent proof, that's the point. So there is nothing wrong with being a bit cautious and sceptical when hearing news and I feel you are being a bit harsh.

And for sure propaganda exists on both sides, I guess no one is seriously disputing this. At the same time I have no doubts that being a PoW is 1000 times better than being in a Russian trench. But still I can acknowledge that reports like this are not some kind of independent journalism.