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[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 66 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I swear these companies are a secret operation to hurt both the economy of the United States and the health of the nation.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 46 points 3 months ago

Nah, it's just disregard for people's health. Nobody cares if someone on the other side of the ocean gets a little lead poisoning six months from now, because by then they'll have the money and be long gone.

[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I was going to binge purchase off Temu at one point - inexpensive junk stuff to tickle my fancy. But in good conscience, I just couldn’t. It’s wasted money on stuff I don’t trust made by exploited workers or knocked off patents that ends up in a landfill.

Would I confidently let my kids play with the toys and tchotchkes? I don’t even buy stuff for them from Amazon cause of all the counterfeit and toxic crap. I know some consumers have to be extra price conscious. It sucks that they’re relegated to crap quality products that are less durable and essentially more disposable (not to say that better quality junk isn’t disposable junk in modern times).

[–] aniki@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Amazon at this point is just Aliexpress with better shipping. I seriously have made it a point to just find what I want on amazon then find it for 1/2 price on aliexpress.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

You buy something from Amazon and it's just a company dropshipping you the product they bought from AliExpress

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Amazon for me is just a search engine. A shit one at that, because the actual search function sucks. I have to search for a product related to what I want and then keep clicking on "products you might want". And after finding what I want just go to the manufacturer's website and buy it for 10€ less.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

knocked off patents

This is the least problematic part of your complaint. There's a lot of good quality knock-offs in Asia, sometimes from the exact same factory as the originals. T-shirts should not be $500, no matter what quality they are. Baseball caps should be $20 maximum. They cost like $5 to make a good one that sells for $500.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, do you have any relatives that would want to work for 2$ per hour to assemble 2 baseball caps with good quality per hour?

If so, I think i have a buisness plan.

[–] amanda@aggregatet.org 1 points 2 months ago

I think I you heard the wrong argument here

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're not wrong. Temu and Shein are actually running at a loss because of all the promotions they do and how cheap they are able to sell things. The Chinese government is doing this to fuck with American economics. Making American companies also drive down prices and exploit labor even more.

[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's not conspiracy 😂 that's what they are trying to achieve. Ideally they want to disturb the market so much and that people only shops there, making other business lose money and eventually comes to be the main supplier. Same goes for the EV market.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it's just being cheap. People want cheap stuff, they produce cheap stuff. Using toxic processes or fewer checks makes things cheap

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I agree. But a lot of the non-cheap stuff is just as toxic and exploitative. We’ve found clothing that’s for sale in a national supermarket chain for sale on Temu for a fraction of the price. Is it a knock-off or the same product being marked up? I suspect the latter is often the case.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah private companies just don't give two shits about anything but profit.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 2 months ago

Unrestricted capitalism is indistinguishable from an attack.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a canon printer, and canon DRM’d the maintenance cartridge so you have to keep buying new ones, even if they aren’t close to full. First and only purchase on ali was a device to fix that little issue.

Some good / some bad. Mostly, I would argue, due to the greed of corporations.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

The problem is that greed & sociopathy are, fundamentally, rewarded by every single system that humans have ever devised, and the single and only safeguard is a properly educated and logical (sane) citizenry who understand that, a community is interdependent, Rome wasn't built in a day, civilization is a product of the collective and, are willing to take action to defend that collective.

The rub is that the wealthy/powerful will always try to attain more power/wealth, so unregulated, centralized, capitalism/socialism is guaranteed to result in the most immoral, unethical, sociopathic, criminals being the most successful. All they have to do is succeed once, while we have to defend for infinity.