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A teenager on a field trip to see a Detroit court ended up in jail clothes and handcuffs because a judge said he didn’t like her attitude.

Judge Kenneth King even asked other kids in the courtroom Tuesday whether the 16-year-old girl should be taken to juvenile detention, WXYZ-TV reported.

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[–] polle@feddit.org 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I would argue that school starting time has nothing to do with the kids needs, and more like that the parents can be in time for work.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That’s the reason against starting late. Parents want older siblings to be available to babysit after school and employers want a 16 year old’s shift to start at 14:30, not 16:30. Extracurricular activities (which should be supported, as long as the children themselves want to do them and as long as they’re not actively harmful to children) can often run 90-150 minutes with changing time and warmups, which makes a later start time logistically difficult for families with children of various ages who want to eat dinner together.

It’s a complicated issue and a solution which involves shorter school hours seems to me to be the best one, but that’s obviously even harder to implement without cutting things that are important, so I don’t know how to actually solve this problem.

I live in Germany now, which has tracking. This seems both hella classist and better for ensuring kids can get sufficient sleep. I would love to know if any country/school system has figured out how to do it in a way that doesn’t deprive some kids of future opportunities.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably could swing the shorter hours by reducing summer vacation.

Take classes to double blocks with an alternating cycle in case classes get too short.

This would anger sports coaches that want to use summer for ~~torturing their kids~~ training camp, and farmers that like the cheaper-than-illegal-immigrants that need summer jobs.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

You’re right. I feel like that takes a fundamental part of my childhood away from other kids, but with the child labor laws in some states, that was no longer safe anyway.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

And limiting the number of busses on the road at the same time for those other parents stuck in rush hour traffic.