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[–] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago (5 children)

It is lower from where it was in june (48.472) and the data seem to indicate a negative trajectory , also lemmy donations seem to be the lowest i remember them to be.

So i would not get too confident, the project IMO needs to focus on highly requested killer features. My impression they focusing too much on technical issues that don't seem to be really important in a way that reminds me of the infamous The CADT Model rant of Jamie Zawinski. Do we really need to do a UI rewrite?

[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago

That's weird! I go on Lemmy daily and it's been feeling a lot busier IMO.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The CADT model...that was a short but fun read. I have definitely encountered that model many times in the various jobs.

Years ago, when I was a developer, I loved fixing bugs in other people's code. I felt like I learned a lot from that, and I got a sense of accomplishment out of it. It made users happy, it made my boss happy, and the puzzle solving aspect of it was fun. I was what they called a "maintenance programmer" which was something of an insult, but I didn't mind.

Unfortunately most developers I know hate everyone else's code, think others' code is "garbage" (every single time) and they definitely have a lot more fun building something from scratch than doing bug fixes. They even hate their own code once it's a few months old. Always chasing for the perfect architecture, etc. Which is unfortunate, there's tremendous value in repairing and upgrading existing things.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

TF2 community greatly values efforts of The Janitor - sole full-time developer, fixing old bugs in TF2.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago
[–] ericjmorey@discuss.online 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

there’s tremendous value in repairing and upgrading existing things.

Value created doesn't translate to value extracted and VCs and managers and marketers and the general public fork over more money in exchange for new shiny than old, reliable, maintained. There are few exceptions.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

True, but I've also worked at many places where they hang on to old software systems for years or even decades (think banking, mainframes). Because they "it works, and if it ain't broke don't fix it".

[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'm out of the loop, what are the highly requested features?

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago

Multi communities, tags, dedicated moderation dashboard

[–] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

probably the best (or least worst) indication of that is sorting issues by "thumbs up" on github, see lemmy and lemmy-ui. I think having a survey among donors (like godot had on patreon) is a better indicator.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago

I suppose for me more compact posts and in community search.

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was so confused when I heard about lemmy-ui-leptos, it really sounds like a waste of time to me 🤷‍♂️

I'm sure everyone has a different opinion, but I think the most important new feature should be the plugin system. It seems like the only way to scale up the number of contributors and support a variety of languages.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4695

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

Yes, that could be huge

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully Sublinks, PieFed or Mbin will be ready soon so that we can ditch Lemmy entirely.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Are those better than Lemmy? I'm enjoying Lemmy so far.

[–] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At this point i think piefed feels better with it's ability to subscribe to posts and comments and incrementally read stuff, and also the wiki system . mbin reportedly has multireddits but i played with it and could not figure out how to enable it. but piefed still didn't have a beta release.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

Good overview.

Mbin doesn't have multicommunities yet, feel free to upvote this issue: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/issues/486

Mod tools for Piefed are very promising!

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

They are different, but Lemmy is still a solid choice