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The initiative is at more than 20% of the 1 million signatures necessary.

As of 4 pm CEST the numbers are:

| Country | Number of Signatures | Percentage of the theshold| |


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| | Austria | 4,187 | 31.26% | | Belgium | 7,116 | 48.06% | | Bulgaria | 2,764 | 23.06% | | Croatia | 2,527 | 29.87% | | Cyprus | 288 | 6.81% | | Czechia | 4,690 | 31.68% | | Denmark | 7,684 | 77.85% | | Estonia | 1,827 | 37.02% | | Finland | 10,266 | 104.01% | | France | 16,732 | 30.04% | | Germany | 45,688 | 67.51% | | Greece | 2,469 | 16.68% | | Hungary | 4,509 | 30.46% | | Ireland | 4,680 | 51.06% | | Italy | 7,949 | 14.84% | | Latvia | 1,569 | 27.82% | | Lithuania | 3,109 | 40.09% | | Luxembourg | 430 | 10.17% | | Malta | 279 | 6.6% | | Netherlands | 15,999 | 78.25% | | Poland | 20,517 | 55.97% | | Portugal | 5,019 | 33.9% | | Romania | 7,917 | 34.03% | | Slovakia | 2,773 | 28.1% | | Slovenia | 1,478 | 26.21% | | Spain | 16,261 | 39.09% | | Sweden | 13,698 | 92.52% | | Total | 212.425 | 21,24% |

To be successful the initiative needs to reach 1 million signatures and pass the threshold in at least seven countries.

https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home/allcountries

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[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 17 points 3 months ago (27 children)

People need to understand what this will mean from a developer perspective before getting all up in arms. This initiative is more kneejerk emotional than it is realistic.

If you're going to watch only one of these videos, watch the second one:

https://youtu.be/ioqSvLqB46Y

https://youtu.be/x3jMKeg9S-s

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Really doesn't matter whether the proposal as it is in the petition is completely realistic or not. The point is to get this topic into the EU parliament. It'll be their job to work out a solution that works for both consumers and developers.

[–] squidspinachfootball@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The first video does address this idea - time stamped for convenience. Basically it's starting the wrong conversation, without enough nuance to a group of people that may not understand the nuance of the gaming industry. Could end up with more bad than good, as gov't has done by accident before. I recommend a watch of those two videos, I probably haven't summed it up very well and out of context clips aren't necessarily a good representation either. PirateSoftware's a good speaker imo, easy to listen to.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't agree with it starting the wrong conversation. Something does need to be done about companies denying access to a game you bought and that's the conversation it starts. If this proposal lands on the EU negotiation table, I can guarantee you that the games industry will lobby against it, and heavily. There is no chance the EU will just go "OK sounds good, make it so!". Heck, the chances are higher that if they pass an actual law, it will be so watered down that it won't do anything at all. But then at least we tried.

I've watched his first video, but I really don't agree with many of his points. He only barely acknowledges this being a proposal and then gets lost in the details. He's clearly against any measures that have the slightest potential to be a disadvantage for game developers, which I guess is understandable from his perspective as a developer. But he doesn't seem to particularly care about the consumer's rights, basically saying the problem is solved as soon as the publisher makes it clear at purchase that people are only buying a temporary license. He's also trying to discredit supporters of the initiative by saying they don't know how the industry works, despite quite a few people in the industry supporting the initiative as well.

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