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[–] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This is exactly the point I'm trying to make, but am getting downvoted because I apparently sound like a "child rape apologist".

I understand the crime is emotionally charged, but that doesn't mean anyone convicted of it should just be thrown in the oubliette.

[–] watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 months ago

I would like to propose “forgettamatorium” as an English translation for oubliette.

[–] Reyali@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I believe people can change and I think it’s important we hold space for people to do so. However, that hinges on the person actually growing, which often starts with showing remorse. I know you implied that this guy has done so, but I haven’t seen any evidence of that.

Even the quote you posted somewhere else about it being the worst thing he’d done, or something like that? That very much sounds like a, “I’m not sorry I did it, I’m sorry I got caught” kind of statement.

Asked if van de Velde had ever expressed any remorse to him for rape, Immers [his teammate] said: “No, he doesn’t, he doesn’t explain it.” (source)

"I have been branded as a sex monster, as a pedophile," he said. "That I am not — really not.” (source)

If there’s an apology or some actual statement showing his remorse, I’d love to see it, but I’m skeptical that it exists. This whole controversy he’s had a huge opportunity to step up, apologize, and rebuke his prior actions. Instead, he’s faced it all with silence and a reaction of ‘I don’t want to talk about it.’ That is not the behavior of a person who acknowledges they were in the wrong, imo.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Seems like this whole debacle is because he didn't make a press tour saying to the whole wide world how remorseful he is, but the comittee said that experts determined that he was remorseful though, so we shouldn't trust the experts now?

Van de Velde has fully engaged with all requirements and has met all the stringent risk assessment thresholds, checks and due diligence. Experts have stated that there is no risk of recidivism.

Van de Velde has consistently remained transparent about the case which he refers to as the most significant misstep of his life. He deeply regrets the consequences of his actions for those involved. He has been open about the personal transformation he has undergone as a result. Since his return he has participated in major international events without incident.

from https://nocnsf.nl/en/nocstarnsf-takes-measures-to-ensure-a-safe-sporting-environment-for-all-olympic-participants

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

The problem is that people absolutely believe that.