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There are many corrupt people in the government, both elected politicians and unelected officials. Many are p#do***les, other launder money, some rig elections, while others surveil and harass innocent people.

To protect our Parliament, and Constitution, all these politicians and their families should come under public scrutiny. All their financial records, their communications, their online search histories, should be in the public domain.

In other words, we need parity of privacy between the State and its People.

This sounds hair-brained and extreme, but the public is already under intensive surveillance. I think experience needs to be felt by the officials as well so they finally begin to value the fundamental right to privacy.

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[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You need to go outside your borders, if you think a government can't work.

[–] electro1@infosec.pub -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's funny you you say that, because we humans as a species are so fascinating, we harnessed many forces of natue, and we came up with mindblowing ideas, yet when it comes to the concept of a government, we think that's the only system that can work, and the only way that we can live, it's sad honestly, governments abuse their power, you can't get them to stop it... unless you want a bullet...so so much for being civil

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I didn't say other forms don't work.

I'm just saying a government works very well other places and in smaller countries. Especially in the nordic Europe, where ironically has a bigger government than most countries, and are better off.

[–] electro1@infosec.pub 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Especially in the nordic Europe

we look up to those nations and we say it worked for them, so it'll work for us, but there are many factors to consider that won't play the same for you

and i would argue that even when it works, it's still susceptible to failure, change of rulers, bad policies accumulate quietly, being told to do something unethical for the greater good ( e.g. taxes )

what about other places where it didn't work? even after years and years of trying ( voting ), what do you call doing the same thing and expecting different results ? ..... when you try to remove a dictator peacefully and you end up getting bombed, remember that the Syrian protests started with red roses and ended with blood.. anyways I feel I'm going way off topic here.. but the point is give a central authority too much power and they'll abuse it, if not now it'll be later.. so just don't ...it's time to move on, we can organize ourselves without selling our liberties like our right to privacy.

btw, I thought about this, a looong time ago, when I was thinking is this system rigged? young me felt there's a conspiracy, but now I realize it's just how it works, it demands control

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At our current development, the solution is better government, NOT no government.

Government can the done decent. It ain't got to be a clone degenaracy

[–] electro1@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you can do that when you have to vote for the lesser evil.. and compromise!.. how about NO

what about your principles ? what about setting an example for the future generations ? what are they going to think of their ancestors who lived under and had to work with evil systems because "that's what they had to work with"

I'm not saying it's going to be easy, but we need to recognize these systems of control, and boycott them and I'm very glad to see more and more people waking up to the surveillance agenda and leaving Big tech.. the government is also a control system, people hate to admit that because it makes them think they're weak, but that's not true..

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bro i am with you on that lesser of evil aint gonna do shit.

I am voting third party as protest vote until i die or enough of us do it.

coupled with direct action. that's really all a peasant can do, it aint worth dying over it or suffering anymore then it is imposed up on you. like you said, boycott!

hence why, voting with your money is more powerful then even voting third party. this one hurts owner class.

we don't hate choice on necessities but other thinks our opinion can be felt with a financial quarter and they have to listen :)

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Same here, I support both of you, I've never voted and will never vote for a lesser evil kind of candidate. I imagine those who do so are fancy folks who live in first world nations and preach a biased take on democracy. They've never known an oppressive government masquerading as a democracy, people in my country literally canvass and vote for the same ppl who strip them of their rights. That's on them, can never be me.

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yah bUt TaXEs HiGH

Edit: didn’t think I needed the /s