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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 69 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

lemmy aint that private, and possibly easily scrapable

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's as private as you make it. It does not have integrated tracking and/or ad trafficking.

[–] tea@lemmy.today 22 points 3 months ago

Yeah, Lemmy doesn't block you from accessing it via a VPN, for one.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't it? If an Instance owner so chose?

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Of course it COULD but someone has to modify the code. Boost for Lemmy also shows google ads...

[–] Ghostbanjo1949@lemmy.mengsk.org 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not a code change at all, just a filtering of the traffic from particular ip's and forwarding it to a different page which is all that reddit is doing as well.

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How can you implement Google AdSense banners like that????

[–] Ghostbanjo1949@lemmy.mengsk.org 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't talking about good AdSense in this case, just the page you are redirected to if you are coming from one of their marked VPN IP addresses. Unless this has changed since the last time I attempted to go to Reddit with a VPN on. But that's the behavior I've witnessed.

This discussion was about Lemmy and that you could easily implement ads by changing the code, you say you don't need a code change ? What's your point?

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As all sites should be. I'm on the internet, mr world wide. When did we expect privacy. Don't put nothing online you don't want the world to know.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I used to think like this, but it's a bit more nuanced./ If you tell people they can't have any expectation of privacy, it's essentially telling people of persecuted minorities that they're not welcome.

Perfect privacy is impossible, but it shouldn't be trivial to violate someone's privacy when their membership of such a community is relevant.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

Reddit isn't privacy-safe either.

I'd put less bots/more legitimate users as a benefit of lemmy instead of privacy though.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] AutomaticUpdates@monero.town 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm assuming he means because federation, even if you delete something its mirrored on other instances

[–] AutomaticUpdates@monero.town 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Sure, but the deletion is also mirrored to the other instances no?

EDIT: I suppose it should be alright if you mention in your privacy policy that if you interact with other instances their privacy policies apply as well.

[–] Laborer3652@reddthat.com 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Its not a guaranteed thing. As I understand it servers can simply choose to ignore the delete federation. I have never run a Lemmy server though, so take that with a tiny grain of salt.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, but companies can also "choose" to ignore GDPR requests. I don't think talking about instances not following the spec and deleting things when requested is relevant.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Under normal circumstances. But there could be federation issues, or someone could run a custom version that just ignores all deletion requests.

I'm unsure if that's considered part of the diligence required in Europe.

Edit: does that even apply to public forums such as this? I have always treated it all as if it's public forever.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be honest, privacy is not a major concern of mine and wasn't a factor in my decision making at all. Things like messages not being e2e encrypted don't really bother me that much.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

not having e2ee bothers me on private 1on1 chat apps.

i don't expect it on lemmy though.