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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Is Satan even in the Bible, I know they took like 5 different entities and made it into 1 guy over the years, but if I remember right the whole story of his rebellion and fall is not even in the Bible, it's just fanfic.

It's all confusing cause it's derived from Judaism which originally had many gods, with Yahweh being Dionysus essentially

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yahweh is not Dionysus. No clue how you thought of that.

There's not multiple devil characters so much as there is one character that changes over time as people's beliefs evolved.

Satan as portrayed in the Tanakh/OT is basically the prosecutor of Yahweh's court, as explained by other dudes here. By the time the NT was written, Zoroastrian influence resulted in him becoming an independent and malicious figure.

The Book of Revelations is the youngest canonical book in the Bible. By the time it was written, stuff like the War in Heaven started being believed, and Satan really took on the role as the prince of evil.

Identification with the snake of Eden didn't begin until much later.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pre Yahweh centric Judaism was part of a greater whole in which Yahweh was the god of vineyards and merriment

Sorry bro, but you're straight up wrong. https://books.google.com/books?id=8LtGDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA37

They also both seem to have appeared somewhere around 1300 BC (according to when Wikipedia says the first known signs of their worship are from). As such one could not derive from the other.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, YHWH goes back to El (probably). Or at least partially. There's multiple inflluences for the more central characters

I remember somewhere on Wiki about a deity sitting with his wife on a mountaintop providing water to the area, long before the local people split into israeli and others. Someone knows where?