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His performance may have drawn some gasps from the audience, but I doubt it had the same effect on his fan base. He was not there to speak to the US as a whole; he was there to speak to his die hard supporters - those who actually enjoy his racist, sexist, hateful remarks and voted for him in 2016 because of them; the same people who were willing to stage a coup in his favour in 2021, after four years of ignorance, pettiness and hatred.
His strategy against Biden was winning because it gathered him bipartisan support - even Democrats were dubious about Biden being able to do a good job - but now that that's out of the question, Trump has fallen back to his usual script, because it's too late to do anything else. After all, questioning Obama's birth and throwing sexist remarks against Clinton won him an election; why wouldn't it work again? Just stick to the fanbase that won you an election once and almost won you another the second time, and hope for the best.
People always talk about how he is doing things to please his fan base. Maybe. But they are at most 30% of the country and he needs more than that to win.
This is not going to help him with people who are not in his fan base.
I’d love to agree but gerrymandering, along with other dubious anti-democratic policies, means that Republicans have a gross advantage. This presidential election will probably be as close as the last.
Gerrymandering has nothing to do with a presidential election. It doesn't even help with senatorial elections.
Sure, but the Electoral College affords Republicans the same advantage in Presidential races.
If that were true, Biden wouldn't be president. Nor would Obama have.
I said they have an advantage. Not an insurmountable one.
It's not for nothing that the Republicans have only won the popular vote in the presidential election once in the last 25 years, and yet we've had three Republican presidential terms.
But one of those times was due to a SCOTUS decision over Florida ballots. Gore would have won even with the electoral college if that bogus decision hadn't been made. So you need to discount the 2000 election in that list if you're talking about an EC advantage. Really, you can only go with Trump in 2016 at that point.
Even with the vote count the SC ratified, Bush still didn't win the popular vote in 2000.
It still wasn't an EC issue that got him elected.
It was, though. Just one that was exacerbated by the Supreme Court.
The Electoral College is the reason the Supreme Court even mattered in that election. If it wasn't for them, the vote count in Florida would not have been instrumental to the final decision. Gore's lead would have been too great for it to matter.
The last two Republican presidents both lost the popular vote but still became president anyway.
https://www.history.com/news/presidents-electoral-college-popular-vote
Hell, one of those two didn't even win the fuckin electoral college and still became president.
Anyone remember how sleepy we all felt that day? Or maybe there was something really good to watch on TV or something. Idk, I'd just turned 10 so I couldn't even vote
That wasn't their point. Go back and reread the whole thing. They're just saying the popular vote is meaningless and that Republicans have multiple political advantages that favor them
Oh, no, it's having quite an effect on the fanbase. Mostly, they recognize what a losing strategy it is, even if they agree with it.
Just take a look at the old conservative stallwart site, Free Republic: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4255438/posts
There's a few people weakly defending it, but there's a general tenor of "oh shit, we fucked up".
Amusingly, there's a few people saying they should try winning on policy, not race. This after the Heritage Foundation put out a 900+ page PDF with their dream policies, and Americans were horrified by it. Guys, if you could win on policy, you wouldn't have ever needed Trump.