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[–] red_pigeon@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

One of the funniest things humanity has done is to invent the concept of God as a super entity and then reduce him/them/it to their level.

Why would a super entity be bound by "love" which only humans understand ? Why would "it" have the concept of "evil", something that humans invented out of fear.

As a species we just need to accept we are just stupid.

[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Why would a super entity be bound by "love" which only humans understand ? Why would "it" have the concept of "evil", something that humans invented out of fear.

It doesn't. That's the point. The Epicurean paradox doesn't say god doesn't exist in some way or form, but the idea of god as someone with a relationship to humanity based on love, omnipotence and omniscience (in any way that's meaningful to us) is apparently false.

Or from your perspective: God loves us in his way; he doesn't love us in our way, which means we can't expect the same mercy, the same support, the same commitment from him as we humans are capable of.

Epicurus refuted one very specific idea of god, which was prevalent at one point in time, but is today only believed by very devout evangelicals. What we today conclude from the fact that apparently no god will alleviate the suffering in this life is up to each individual.

[–] shy_mia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

And that is why religion is effectively meaningless. We have invented a being full of contradictions, much like ourselves, but declared [it|whatever] perfect besides that. The answer to the paradox is that there is no God.

People should learn to strive for good without the threat of eternal punishment from a being of their invention, otherwise those individuals were never good to begin with, and their imaginary all powerful, all knowing and judgemental god would punish them regardless.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago

Define "good".

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

As a species we just need to accept we are just stupid.

Or in the words of Socrates: "I know that I know nothing."
Or in the words of (possibly or possibly not) Einstein: "Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

I agree. It is better not to assume anything and take it for a truth, but to find the truth through reliable and provable methods.