Movies
Welcome to Movies, a community for discussing movies, film news, box office, and more! We want this to be a place for members to feel safe to discuss and share everything they love about movies and movie related things. Please feel free to take part and help our community grow!
Related Communities:
!books@lemmy.world - Discussing books and book-related things.
!comicbooks@lemmy.world - A place to discuss comic books of all types.
!marvelstudios@lemmy.world - LW's home for all things MCU.
While posting and commenting in this community, you must abide by the Lemmy.World Terms of Service: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
-
Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, ableist, or advocating violence will be removed.
-
Be civil: disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally insult others.
-
Spam, self promotion, trolling, and bots are not allowed
-
Shitposts and memes are allowed until they prove to be a problem.
Regarding spoilers; Please put "(Spoilers)" in the title of your post if you anticipate spoilers, as we do not currently have a spoiler tag available. If your post contains an image that could be considered a spoiler, please mark the thread as NSFW so the image gets blurred. As far as how long to wait until the post is no longer a spoiler, please just use your best judgement. Everyone has a different idea on this, so we don't want to make any hard limits.
Please use spoiler tags whenever commenting a spoiler in a non-spoiler thread. Most of the Lemmy clients don't support this but we want to get into the habit as clients will be supporting in the future.
Failure to follow these guidelines will result in your post/comment being removed and/or more severe actions. All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users. We ask that the users report any comment or post that violates the rules, and to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting.
view the rest of the comments
I’m not deeply familiar with the lore/canon. Is there any instance in the comics that Tony Stark becomes Dr. Doom? If not, is this Marvel getting desperate with their waning popularity by trying to bring back RDJ just to straight up play a different character? That’s a new low.
Dr. Doom has become Iron Man, so there's that. In this case it might just be same actor two roles. Remember that Doom wears that mask because his face is all fucked up; it's likely that they could just have RDJ play the role without any Iron Man connections at all.
Update: also there's this: https://youtu.be/5Jv-HopDBV4?si=052HgQB2WQJhtvRT
Doesn't seem to me like it would make sense to hire RDJ and then hide him behind a mask for the entire movie.
I'd like to invite you to watch V for vendetta. A good actor can do magic even behind a mask!
Edit: I'm not sure how Downey Jr would perform, just want to point out that a mask alone is not a blocker for a great performance.
You are absolutely correct, I love that movie. The chances of Disney being able to pull off anything even half as good however are basically nonexistent. That would require them to make something where the audience has to think, something risky, something potentially divisive.
Marvel is the epitome of visually impressive, but safe, inclusive movies for all audiences. Even the ones who are on their phones for half the movie.
Sometimes this is exactly what I'm looking for but it's not really comparable to V for Vendetta.
If Disney spend the big bucks on RDJ they're gonna want to show him off to draw in audiences.
I agree so much that a simple upvote would be insufficient! That's the sole purpose of this comment :)
Doesn't seem to be Disney's protocol when it comes to masked characters though. They like showing the faces.
I know little about Marvel, but I guess a Stark from the multiverse may have become Doom instead of Ironman in his timeline.
I'm not well versed with lore but "What If: Iron Man: Demon in an Armor" has Tony and Victor swap bodies. It happens when they are younger so they have different paths and that story isn't the one that is going to be told here, but... technically yes.
But also keep in mind it's fine for the MCU to do things a little different. In Multiverse of Madness we was the "Illuminati" in a way similar to existing material, but still wholly unique. Additionally we got characters like Mordo who get new arcs and growth that differs from any existing media
While I do expect this to be a little desperate on Marvels part, they're also bringing back the Russo brothers, I think it's also a way to bring hype back to Marvel and the idea of the multiverse. The future is mutants and Secret Wars will be a great way to get that going so I think we're going to speedrun it and a cheesy strat like bringing back RDJ is a way to do that.
In terms of story I don't think they're going to ignore that he played Tony Stark/Iron Man. If we're going to play with the Multiverse (and we are) then a variant of Tony is fair game.