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[–] xoggy@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Think about it though. When people say they want to "code AI" what they typically mean is they want to play with prompts and waste electricity on garbage models, not actually write any of the underlying models that power AI.

[–] CeeBee@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a huge gap between "playing with prompts" and "writing the underlying models" and they entire gap is all coding.

[–] Phoenix@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really is big. From baby's first prompting on big corpo model learning how tokens work, to setting up your own environment to run models locally (Because hey, not everyone knows how to use git), to soft prompting, to training your own weights.

Nobody is realistically writing fundamental models unless they work with Google or whatever though.

[–] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've even heard people try and call slightly complex bots "AI" and claim they can code them (or their friend totally can lol). It's infuriating and hilarious at the same time.

[–] Phoenix@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

w++ is a programming language now 🤡

[–] dimath@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well yes, but also people can use TenserFlow and other AI tools without learning how to properly code. And they can also get the results they want. So be afraid of the question "do you really need to know how to code" anymore.

[–] Phoenix@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you want to disabuse yourself of the notion that AI is close to replacing programmers for anything but the most mundane and trivial tasks, try to have GPT 4 generate a novel implementation of moderate complexity and watch it import mystery libraries that do exactly what you want the code to do, but that don't actually exist.

Yeah, you can do a lot without writing a single line of code. You can certainly interact with the models because others who can have already done the leg work. But someone still has to do it.