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[–] HomebrewHedonist@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Supergovernment? Putting words into people's mouths, I see.

We limited the power of monarchs, why would it be wrong to do that for all powerful people and entities? I say that we need to do it for exactly the same reasons. Limits to power is healthy for everyone, even the super rich. My logic holds true. Does yours?

But I like your idea of a world government because, you know why?... we need to work together rather than against each other. Let's end zero sum game theory.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. Lmao.

I'm not exactly saying you're wrong, this is just extremely naïve thinking.

The reason the power of monarchs was reigned in wasn't because we didn't like the idea of monarchs or absolute power anymore.

The power of monarchs was either usurped by the emerging bourgeoisie, or was given up because they were scared.

To do what you want, a different group or class would have to take the power from the current ruling capitalist class.

The options are:

Some sort of weird authoritarian government, which would basically just replicate the same economic class disparity.

Or, the working class taking the power from the capitalist class, in a non hierarchal organisational structure.

[–] HomebrewHedonist@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not going to get dragged into creating a new government framework with you. I'll leave that to the political scientists. What I'm saying is that we need limits on power. Limits on income existed before 1980 and were dismantled in Regan's trickle-down economic policy. Taxes used to be really high for the ultra rich after WWII to around the late 1970s. Limits existed in other forms too like anti monopoly laws, more regulation and market oversight. What I'm suggesting is simply taking those that once existed and codifying those things into a charter, like the Magna Carta did for kings, so that they can't be repealed by changing governments. It's an idea, not naive at all.

Greater equality is essential for well functioning societies and well functioning economies. It's good for everyone, even the ultra rich... they just forgot it. Read Ray Dalio's The Changing World Order and he explains this quite well. The man is a billionaire himself, and he advocates for a redistribution of wealth and greater economic equality. His research echos much of what is tough in history: inequality always breads social unrest and political upheaval. It's what revolutions are made from.