THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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I watched it. Seemed normal up until she, instead of grabbing her ID, picked up a pot of boiling water and said "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus" to which the cop said "You better fuckin not or I'll shoot you in the fuckin face" she then picked up the pot, didn't drop it, and they shot her.
Here's the vid link, skip to 14:00
She clearly said it as a joke, she was all scrambled and anxious, as evidenced by her trying to do like 4 things at once 60 seconds prior to ~~the shooting~~ her murder. When talking to the deputy in person, their supervisor on the phone, getting her ID, getting her Insurance paperwork, and at this time the deputy asked her to remove the pot of boiling water from the stove. As she got it off the burner, she chuckles and asks why the officer is moving away from her. The officer chuckles as well, saying he's trying to get away from the steaming water. Then, out of fucking NOWHERE, the deputy unholsters his gun and points it at her, saying "he'll shoot her in the fucking face."
Your interpretation is wrong, and I'm confident in labeling you an insufferable asshole.
Dawg, what? We're on the same side here. I tried to relay a neutral chain of events, and then linked the actual source so people could watch it for themselves. I don't know how I could have been more unbiased.
In no world am I supporting what was clearly an unnecessary 0-100 escalation of force. Your comment seems like a similar escalation of force, ironically.
I mean shit, there's no way they're in range of her heaving that water even if that were her intentions. She would have had to round the corner of her counter just to get within effective water tossing range, he had so much time to assess and not shoot and he shot like she had a gun aimed at him. Shameful cowardice.
You wrote the earlier comment as if she was in any way threatening.
She was not. These delulu pos cops just murdered her in cold blood.
I've known stimulant junkies who haven't slept for days who were less paranoid and jumpy.
It's crazy to me that even though fellow cops think his actions are inexcusable, hence the firing and murder charges, there's always another dolt in line ready to lick some boot.
HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY THIS LEVEL OF BOOTLICKING WHAT THE FUCK??
I don't think she was even capable of throwing the water that far but I appreciate the link to the uncut video.
Why are so many people so crazy? Not just that lady and the police, also politicians etc., just so many all over the place.