this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2024
1008 points (98.0% liked)

News

23267 readers
3025 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
  • At 78 years old, former President Donald Trump is now the oldest nominee running for president.
  • Joe Biden, 81, dropped out of the race on Sunday and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, 59.
  • If she becomes the Democratic nominee, Harris' age could be an advantage against Trump.
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 101 points 3 months ago (5 children)

It's fucking wild that conservatives listen to Trump and hear an intelligent and coherent person.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 62 points 3 months ago (4 children)

He said this in 2016:

Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.

He was still elected.

[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I love these transcripts, they always sound like a conversation some rambling old man is having with his hospice nurse.

Ok Mr. Trump, very good. Now take your medications.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wish to point out that he was in his early 70s at the time, generally a bit early for that level of impairment.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

generally a bit early for that level of impairment.

Well, assuming the impairment is age-related and not just, you know, built in

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

True, although if you watch him over the years, especially between 2016 and now, there's been a huge amount of noticeable cognitive decline.

He forgot his own wife's name. He called her Mercedes.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah it's true that while he was never exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, he does seem to have gotten a lot worse fairly quickly. Might be COVID, it's been linked to cognitive decline and I've definitely seen that in my own parents who are no spring chicken

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV."

[–] don@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

It’s like an LLM is responding to a Markov chain with an LLM-generated Markov chain.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

IMO the more amazing thing is that he's since referenced his uncle multiple times as proof that he himself is smart.

Like, aside from all the crazy rambling, he buys into eugenics to such an extent that he thinks his uncle being smart necessarily means that he is also smart. And, he assumes his audience will also believe that intelligence is a hereditary trait like that.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Apparently they do believe it. Either that or they just accept that he does and don't care. But I'd say believing in eugenics is more likely.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

No, it's that they hear someone they understand. "He says it like it is," is white people speak for "his words aren't confusing me." Bc really all Don ever does is tell a story like a trailer park kid. It speaks to their biases and emotions and that's all they care about

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I doubt most of them listen to him at all. They listen to Fox or Newsmax or whatever social media, who only cherrypick the fragments that sound vaguely coherent, and conversely only played the pieces of Biden's speeches that were incoherent. They either don't realize or don't care that they're not looking at the whole picture.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 9 points 3 months ago

Honestly I think it's just that they don't care: Trump is the Führer and everything he does is perfect

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

I expect that they are hearing but not listening

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I actually laughed the first time I heard a Trump fan claim Biden was incoherent. I honestly thought they were kidding.

Nope, dead serious. "Have you ever heard Trump talk?" Silence.