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cat looking inside box meme

  • yeah our project uses typescript
  • look inside
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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 115 points 3 months ago (6 children)

In my defense, the backend contracts change so often in early development the any just made sense at first...

...and then the delivery date was moved up and we all just had to ship it...

...and then half of us got laid off so now there are no resources to go back and fix it...

...rinse, wash, repeat

[–] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Use the unknown type so at least someone might have enough brain cells to validate before casting because squiggles

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In my defense, the backend contracts change so often in early development the any just made sense at first…

Refactorings and changes are the prime reason to use TypeScript. You edit your data objects and get squigglies everywhere shit won’t work anymore. A godsend!

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

110% agree. But...

One job I worked at wouldn't let us do this because it created too large of a QA impact (lol). We were only allowed to modify code in the smallest section possible so that testing could be isolated and go faster.

At another job they mandated that TypeScript wasn't allowed because it "slowed down development". It was soooo laughable. The number of bugs introduced that could have been readily caught was absurd, but management never put the two pieces together.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Typescript only prevents typing bugs... why did they have so many typing bugs?

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Typo'd property names when accessing was the biggest one. Assuming a property was one data type instead of another and not casting or handling it appropriately. Accidentally calling something like it's a method when it isn't.

I ran a bunch of plugins on my end to help with some of that, but many of the older or stubborn devs refused and would refuse anything but, like, vim with no add-ons.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I believe you don’t have to actually use (meaning “compile from”) typescript to profit from it. If you maul the compiler options hard enough, you might get it to analyze JavaScript and provide type checking.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

That's what I did locally.

But a lot of this JavaScript wasn't even transpiled/compiled for prod, just uploaded to a bucket and referenced directly. It was painful.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

Elderly team mates with the flexibility of concrete, yay!

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 3 months ago

Oof. I guess you can use typescript to make up for lack of IDE but it sounds like you had bigger problems anyway.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I'd guess the lack of defined backend contracts is caused by the same issue that made you unable to fix those any later.

Anyway, the frontend / backend split is stupid and ridiculous. It's even worse because both sides usually include tasks that do need to be split up.

[–] steuls@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Its sad how relatable this is

[–] hswolf@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Record<string, unknown> ftw

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Sadly, this is the way.