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[–] mbfalzar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My basic training was with an M16A2 manufactured in the 80s and after a couple hours and ~100 rounds of practice I could group center with iron sights at 500y (457m) and that's functionally the same gun. Effective range for an AR-15 should be the same 600y(550m) as the old M16s from the 70s and 80s, extended to ~1000y (914m) with extra training, better sights, and a match grade rifle

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's weird is that I had way more accuracy with the M16 on pop-up targets than I've ever had with an AR-15. But AR's are made by a variety of manufacturers, and I'm sure that some are better/more accurate than others.

[–] mbfalzar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh, it's not even different manufacturers. Palmetto State Armory has a ton of cheap options, like if you bought a blemished set of their lower grade in 2014ish you could get a full rifle for $400-600, but they also had stuff in the $1500 range that definitely grouped better at 200y (which is the longest distance range I could find that didn't involve giving money to the NRA which at no point am I willing to do)

Edited to add: my main point was that a 30 year old rifle manufactured well shouldn't be that far off from a semi-sloppy modern manufacture, and if the reports that the rifle was stolen from his father are true I'd bias towards a nicer one since the same reports say he stole the rifle but not the sights and was firing without them