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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

And Biden enables genocide, among a lifetime history of right wing views such as fighting for segregation.

Trump and Biden are not good options.

People should be furious the Dems allowed him to be in this position today, not sucking it up and pushing harder for it.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Do you have a source on the fighting for segregation - first I've heard?

I strongly disagree with Biden enabling genocide - America isn't the global police, the UNSC are impotent, and even if you isolate to just the US you're looking at 35 odd years of US strategic interests and policy, dependence on foreign fuel (and denial to other superpowers), global trade chokepoints, a military industrial complex that touches every part of the US economy and American wishes to be a beacon of liberty. No 3 year president can fight that and maintain a stable country.

Yup, Bernie sanders would have been a much better choice but he's not a choice that can be made - you can have either blundering buffoon or egotistical, sexist, racist criminal as the most powerful person in the world.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Joe Biden didn't just compromise with segregationists. He fought for their cause in schools, experts say. - NBC

This has nothing to do with “world police”, Biden and America are literally sending weapons and money to Israel. They’ve routinely shielded them from the UN, and will intervene with force if anyone tries to stop Israel.

To quote Biden himself, “I am a Zionist”. He doesn’t even try to hide how evil he is.

You can either have a shit option or a shit option, you will never have a good option unless you stop supporting the status quo.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The US funds and arms Israel, which they use to enforce their apartheid, a kind of segregation, as well as carry out the genocide of Palestinians. Biden enthusiastically supplies these weapons knowing they are used to kill innocent civilians every single day.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your argument is that the US has supported genocide for many years so why bother stopping, which is pointlessly defeatist and amoral.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago

And ignores us being a major reason here why the unsc can't do anything

[–] Gsus4@programming.dev -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If you insist in framing it that way, know that it comes with the job of being US president https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/

If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged.

and Biden is far from the worst in the war crime enabler list, considering he has to deter the most fascist Israeli government ever...

So...go vote for the least bad option that disempowers you the least.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Instead of voting for war criminals, how about not?

You don’t fill in a hole by taking a lesser amount of dirt out. Likewise you don’t fix the system by voting for the lesser evil.

[–] Gsus4@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Did you see Chomsky's list? All presidents eventually become war criminals, even if it is by complicit passivity, even that "saint" Jimmy Carter (because of allowing Indonesia to proceed with genocide in East Timor).

By that standard, even Chomsky as president would have been a war criminal if he had just made a deal to allow Ukraine to be invaded by russia with impunity.

You get nothing for your cause by letting trump win. Nothing. And you will lose on lots of fronts that affect you personally, including protest, which at least allows you to control the israelis a little bit.