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This is fucked reporting right? The quote they use as evidence is her saying something is "in God's hands". Elsewhere articles are run using quotes of her praying to god.

This is like, extremely normal lexicon for even casually religious people right? I'm an atheist with a pretty negative view of religion and to me this looks like pearl clutching.

Lots of extremely normal people say "I am praying for guidance" when they're reflecting on something. That in isolation doesn't mean they expect a hedge to catch fire and tell them what to do...

If our standard is pollies never mention religion then we might want to do some stuff about the Lord's prayer, the oaths, and the magical mace of the Royal cult.

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[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Look, I'd call it fair if the Christian side had the same level applied to it.

I want no religion in my politics thanks. Full stop. Even handed.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Depending on what you mean that might be naïve. As it stands something like half of us are religious and many people who are religious would say it significantly shapes their views on things.

It's not even clear where the boundaries between religious and nonreligious views are sometimes.

I think it's reasonable to ask for a politics that's reasonable, earnest, compassionate, and understanding. I think it's also true that fundamentalism can be awful and used to make frothing bigotry seem more reasonable than it is.

But idk, if someone says "a fundamental creed of some system I believe in is non violence and helping the weak, and I meditated on that in my appropriate cultural building last night, so I will be voting against the 'kill the target minority' bill proposed" is that such a bad or unreasonable thing?

I think there's some nuance, and it doesn't seem that much more silly than standing before an ocean storm, feeling the sublime, and that moment triggering a reduction in ego or whatever.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

yeah nah. My grandmother was religious as fuck and she never said shit like "it's in gods hands" she just made a decision and if questioned said "Because it's the right thing to do you bloody drongo"

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

Really? I got kicked out of Christian Education in highschool for eating a bible and I've said "It's in God's hand's now". Admittedly as a humourous way to sum up "I've done what I can, now we see how it shaked out" but all the same.

It's just an idiom. No doubt sometimes people literally mean it as handing off responsibility to a supernatural, interventionist entity but I would not assume that without seeing evidence someone was a fundie.