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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

At what point do Americans use that 2nd Amendment against tyranny as it was intended? Or is that difficult because the wrong party and classes have most of the guns?

People advocating for leftists to go out into the streets with firearms forget recent history:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_and_Michael_Reinoehl

The supreme court just made this type of thing entirely legal as well. Not that it mattered. I have to Google the incident everytime because it didn't even register as a blip on the national radar, but the feds likely executed this guy.

I unfortunately don't know what the answer is or if there even is one, but this country historically and certainly recently doesn't take kindly to armed leftists.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't think that case is a good comparison to a bunch of leftists taking up arms against the state. That was protestor on protestor violence and involved two people. Had nothing to do with a bunch of Americans standing up to a tyrranical government at once. The Marshall's response was disgusting, but that's to be expected with someone like Trump holding the reins.

Some better examples would be MOVE in Philadelphia who got bombed, and the black panthers in California who got the Republican led government to make laws against the second amendment. Still, I think these groups were too small, we just need more people.

You do bring up a good point, but we haven't really tried, yet. It might be different when the feds are actually against a large group, but they will never be deterred by smaller groups. The problem is actually getting enough people to care enough. People are very attached to their bread and circuses, and I understand. The revolution would not be an enjoyable struggle.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What fucking "leftists"??? Where?? How is arming up against a fascist dictatorship "leftist"?? The simple fact is that Americans are spoiled fucking slobs who refuse to back up anyone that calls for resistance. On another platform I'm taking all sorts of heat from fucking brunchers who are terrified about trumpism but think arming up and being ready to defend self or neighbors makes me a barbaric ghoul and a "rittenhouse".

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What, pray tell, do you expect from online denizens in general? We aren't generally on here to organize a revolution or counterrevolution, we're on here to kill thirty minutes on break from work.

And you're on here too. If this shit is so important why are you here on memeville posting it up instead of actually doing anything about it?

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I'm here to get a message out to people on break from their work