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The community c/libertyhub@lemmy.blahaj.zone states in the sidebar it's a community for leftists and post leftists, but if you actually look at the posts the mods are making, it's almost nothing but trolling and telling people not to vote in the general election.

This rhetoric is especially dangerous to trans people, who this instance is supposed to be a safe space for, and West Bank Palestinians. If the USA elects a fascist president, there is guaranteed to be multiple genocides of society's most vulnerable groups, in addition to what the US is already doing in Gaza.

The mods on Liberty Hub openly troll their users and ban people for advocating left wing or harm reducing positions. The only action that is allowed on the sub is advocating political inaction in the face of genocide, taking a centrist position with regards to open fascism.

This community has absolutely no place on Blahaj Zone and should be removed by the admins.

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[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Man, why didn't I think of preventing political propaganda from reaching people by ignoring it. What a good idea!

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Memes from someone whose takes you don’t like isn’t the same thing as propaganda and it certainly doesn’t make the community transphobic. If you can’t live with seeing it, block it. There is real, honest to god, paid for with billionaire cash political propaganda targeting trans people out there, and that community ain’t it.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

propaganda noun

1 : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions 2: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person 3: ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause also : a public action having such an effect

Idead spread for the purpose of furthering a cause. I think Liberty Hub's anti-voting posts meet both definition 2 and definition 3. (Merriam Webster)

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

2: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person

This post is propaganda, time to take it down, your rules not mine 🤷‍♂️

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, this post is propaganda. If you look closely at what I've been saying I don't have a moral opposition to propaganda. What I'm saying is propaganda needs to be taken seriously beyond the individual. This post isn't transphobic trolling, which is the thing I actually want removed.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe you could link and report some of the transphobic trolling? That would speed along its removal. All the links I saw just had political memes.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ada already cleaned it up. That's why the link in my post doesn't work.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ada said she was dealing with insults to other users, I think she’d remember to mention transphobic trolling on the part of the mods.

If you’re not going to bother reading or responding to my criticism of the reach you had to go through to arrive at ‘anti-Biden = transphobic’, then I have no reason to continue the conversation.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

I was mistaken. There's no modlog entry associated with deletion of the linked post. It seems the Liberty Hub mods deleted it themselves.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Counterpoint - these communities are a big part of a concerted right wing effort to divide the left by pushing an extremely insular and extremist version of left wing self parody. A lot of well meaning people buy into it initially and then don't have the moral courage to step away from it when they are shown its extremist side. That's why it is not very effective and very dangerous.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago

You are starting from a bad faith assumption and demanding everyone else do the same. The result is that queer people who don’t like Joe Biden (for very understandable reasons) can’t have any space to talk about that without being called propaganda and right wing trolls. You don’t seem to want the content to exist at all, rather than looking for specific evidence that this user or mod team is part of a right wing effort.