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c/libertyhub@lemmy.blahaj.zone <mailto:c/libertyhub@lemmy.blahaj.zone> is full of transphobic trolls (lemmy.ca)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by MindTraveller@lemmy.ca to c/main@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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The community c/libertyhub@lemmy.blahaj.zone states in the sidebar it's a community for leftists and post leftists, but if you actually look at the posts the mods are making, it's almost nothing but trolling and telling people not to vote in the general election.

This rhetoric is especially dangerous to trans people, who this instance is supposed to be a safe space for, and West Bank Palestinians. If the USA elects a fascist president, there is guaranteed to be multiple genocides of society's most vulnerable groups, in addition to what the US is already doing in Gaza.

The mods on Liberty Hub openly troll their users and ban people for advocating left wing or harm reducing positions. The only action that is allowed on the sub is advocating political inaction in the face of genocide, taking a centrist position with regards to open fascism.

This community has absolutely no place on Blahaj Zone and should be removed by the admins.

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[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Pledging to vote for someone despite the genocide means they have no incentive to stop the genocide. That is the more dangerous stance.

Ballots are secret. There is no way to prove how you voted once the ballot is sumbmitted. The optimal play is to make a lot of noise saying that your vote is contingent on an end to the genocide, even if that isn't how you actually vote on election day.

Pledging to vote for biden at this point is encouragement. Why would he do anything about palestine if he knows you're going to vote for him anyway?

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 months ago

You might be clever enough to walk that fine line, but the average voter is not. They hear "don't vote for Biden" and they believe you. Expecting to trick the president and not trick the millions of other people who need to vote against fascism for fascism not to happen, is impossible.

You're playing chicken with fascism. You're spreading fascist propaganda to voters while the DNC threatens the same and hoping the other one blinks first. But you and I have a lot more to lose from fascism than those rich white people do, and they're not going to blink. Your threats of fascism are going to come true.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago

They have no incentive either way. Either Biden wins and stays the course, or Trump wins and... well...

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Pledging to vote for someone despite the genocide means they have no incentive to stop the genocide. That is the more dangerous stance.

Bullshit, it's the least dangerous stance!

You can vote for Biden and have him fail to stop the genocide
You can vote for Trump and have him enthusiastically support and egg on the genocide
You can vote third-party and have Trump enthusiastically support and egg on the genocide

Those are your choices. Pretending that there's some choice other than voting for Biden that causes less harm is a DELUSIONAL LIE, end of!