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[–] Bogrug@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (12 children)
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yeah, that's literally their whole reasoning. I've had to deal with a number of those all the way back in 2014, "national sOcIaLiSm"

Of course, whenever I pointed to The Guardian's interview with Hitler in 1923 (and republished in 1932), where he energetically complains about marxists (marxians, as he calls them) "stealing" the socialist term from "real germans" and actively calls for the end of bolshevism, I was completely ignored.

"Why," I asked Hitler, "do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party programme is the very antithesis of that commonly accredited to socialism?"

"Socialism," he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, pugnaciously, "is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

[–] hare_ware@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Wait, but what did he even mean by "socialism" here? I get call what was happening in Russia not socialism, but what was the un-Marxist form of socialism Hitler was talking about? Also, wasn't Marx also German, did Hitler see him as not a "real german"?

[–] maxcorbetti@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

He's opportunistcally envokning it as socialism is popular, but cares for nothing other than the political clout the label may bring.

Fascism exists to capture popular revolutionary sentiment, while preserving the old power structure.

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