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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's a list of a bunch of trucks compared to a midsized SUV, so you're kind of proving yourself wrong. Cars are split into weight classes, so a comparison that doesn't acknowledge that isn't very useful. A EV Sedan is on average much heavier than an ICE sedan.

No one's saying ICE vehicles are better for the environment than EVs

[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Those are the most sold vehicles in the US, when you have heavy EV’s in the top slots you can say that heavy ev’s are a problem… until then it’s what you are buying is causing the problem.

[–] MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just because something isn't the biggest problem doesn't mean it's not a problem worth talking about.

[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I agree entirely, but the title of this post suggests that EVs are the problem, but actually it’s heavy vehicles.

Additionally when we say “problem”, particulate pollution from vehicles is 99.9% a diesel problem, and 0.1% a tire problem. (Not actual statistics but let me know how wrong I am with the actual stat)

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

No one’s saying ICE vehicles are better for the environment than EVs

I think it's possible for a diesel vehicle running on 100% biodiesel made from waste oil to be. The problem there is that there isn't enough of that sort of fuel to go around as long as cities keep getting designed to keep people car-dependent.