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[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 5 months ago (3 children)

But they did make headlines, that's how we know about these. The FTC and FCC doing their job more is good and makes headlines.

It's good, don't get me wrong. But man it feels like table scraps compared to a lot on what Biden ran on in 2020.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 58 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not really. The average person knows more about trump's bowel movements than these accomplishments. The average undecided voter is lazy and needs information spoon-fed to them. That's why it matters what is reported in the media.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And also, the people who run the media have very fucked up priorities. Biden's NLRB can make historic strides in bringing unions back into American working life and they every so often run a story about it if there happens to be something they can say that has the word "Starbucks" in it.

But, if either Biden or Trump ever farted on camera, it would be all we heard about for a month.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

if either Biden or Trump ever farted on camera, it would be all we heard about for a month.

The public's attention span has gone down, for better or words. It probably wouldn't last that long. So we got that going for us.

Remember the fucking "Dean scream"? Fuck policies, a dude yelled!

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It started as a deliberate engineering technique. Let's take the most left wing guy we can find, and make him look like an evil crazy weak moron fascist pants shitting wimp robot that nobody likes, by sheer force of peer pressure and insult. It hurt Al Gore and John Kerry quite a bit, and I think the Dean Scream was probably the peak of the middle school peer pressure bullshit. I think soon after that a lot of people just stopped paying attention to the TV news for anything. But it's still happening; now it's just phrased as things like "Biden is old and out of touch and we're concerned that his polls are down." I think around the time of Bernie Sanders (when no one gave a shit that they were broadcasting that he was officially not cool and a crazy person communist stupid head and everyone better stop liking him), was when they realized they'd have to regroup and come up with a fresh updated strategy with it.

Also, the beast has gotten out of control, a little bit -- it used to be exclusively a tool of the corporate media aimed at the lefty-est candidate, but it started being how the political press covered everything, to the point that they couldn't really steer it anymore to shit exclusively on the left wing candidates they were trying to destroy. Then a while after that, Trump came along and was 10 times better at it than anything the news could come up with, and the rest is history.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

When it comes to progress being made for unions, I think it might have something to do with the fact that the owners of the newspapers are billionaires.

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure, I agree that it should be brought up more, and that Trump gets endless free airtime even from liberal news outlets. But it's just wild to go "No one remembers or talks about these, the media ignores it!" while we're talking about it and the good it has done.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

“We” are not the corporate media, but to your point they did dutifully report these stories, perfunctorily, on page 23 or behind the weather, sports, movie recommendations and lots of ads.

The reporting was not commensurate with the benefits of the policies. As such, the people who most need to know about them likely won’t, but “we” do.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If there was a liberal equivalent to Fox News, they would be talking about it literally every night. Interviewing people who got jobs, putting up the numbers, airing new factories and manufacturing plants and putting up the numbers of how much of their funding came from Biden's policies. Putting up the graph of how much Amazon is paying in tax now and tossing up softballs about how people must have been waiting for this for a long time.

But because there's nobody with 200 billion dollars just kind of sitting around that they feel like investing in setting up that kind of operation, it's all in White House press releases and the occasional print story from some online news site that's asking for donations and might be gone 2 years from now when the unsustainable nature of their business model finally becomes unavoidable.

[–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If there was a ~~liberal~~ leftist equivalent to Fox News

FTFY. Liberalism is right-wing economically, and therefore is motivated to downplay Biden helping workers over corporations just as much as Fox News is.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 5 months ago

I actually wrote left wing originally and then edited it specifically to match Lemmy’s Overton window - I agree with you; his trade policies seem liberal to me, but union support and corporate taxes are pretty explicitly left wing I agree. But in Lemmy terms I think he wouldn’t be considered “leftist” unless he is overthrowing the means of production, maybe.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But man it feels like table scraps compared to a lot on what Biden ran on in 2020.

Given that the republiQans retook the house in 2022, what did Biden run on that he hasn’t delivered?

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah these absolutely made headline / TV news when they passed. No idea what OP means.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He means they aren't brokered talking points. No one is pushing this, because there's not a huge amount of money, bots, every news outlet that has a vested financial interest in getting Biden a second term.

Trump was found guilty, took a huge hit in polls, then turned around and had the biggest funding boost in US history.