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[–] burgers@toast.ooo 124 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

man i just spent like an hour in the bathtub reading further into this and belly laughing

i will say though that i think the guy who sold mike lindell the 'data' that he's referring to in the challenge might actually be a genius lol. this is apparently the third or fourth time he's identified someone who needs some kind of technological hail mary and then he just shows up and is like "i have.. the data". he sold proof that obama faked his birth certificate and also sold a bunch of completely bogus software to the pentagon during the post-9/11 defense industry boom such as software that "decodes" al jazeera broadcasts into secret al qaeda messages. an employee of his testified that he doesn't even have an IDE installed on his computer. he's literally made tens of millions of dollars off of this grift and despite being basically constantly legally embattled for the past 20 years has apparently not suffered any consequences. i wish him a long and successful career being the smartest dumb guy in the room

mike lindell actually comes away from this looking almost sympathetic because he is so, so clearly a moron whose conception of data is like, a PS1-era spinning icon of a CD-ROM. it's very hard for me to guess whether or not he was acting in good faith: on the one hand, the logical thing to do with proof of election tampering is not 'announce a five million dollar challenge for someone to prove that i don't have it', but on the other hand, it doesn't make any fucking sense to do that if you don't think you have proof either. either way i would love to know how much money he paid for it (by the way, the data is: a text file with a list of IP addresses in mainland china, a PDF with a 'graphic depiction of voting machines', and many terabytes of gibberish binary files timestamped to several days before the challenge was set up). look at this quote the guy is literally zoolander stupid

“I said, ‘Wow!’ This would absolutely explain what I couldn’t explain!” Lindell recalled in an interview. “It was done with computers! I knew that was the only explanation."

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

The votes were IN the computers all along?

Smartmaticsonite... I was WAYYY off!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My favorite part is that the lawsuit is being brought by a Trump voter.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

"Let them fight!"

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

What's hilarious is that they all seem to have proof of all these things, but they never release any of it.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait...there is money in manufacturing false data to sell to these fascists?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Oh, if only my moral compass was just a bit weaker. The TSA spent about a decade after its conception trying to find a magic box that identifies terrorists in airports. The millimeter wave scanners are the most successful thing to come out of the entire effort. Those at least sorta work, and most of the rest on the list are far worse than that. Made a bunch of people a lot of money, though.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago

Security theater, just like signatures for credit cards. At least they’re doing away with those.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

I don't know if it is unethical. They want a narrative and you sold it to them. Is making a superhero movie unethical? Is roleplay in the bedroom unethical? You are taking money away from fascists which is always a good thing.

[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Want good reads to recommend concerning this?

[–] burgers@toast.ooo 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

sorry im not sure if you're asking or offering. if you're offering then absolutely, hit me. if you're asking then these two are pretty good:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada-companys-troubles-entangle-gibbons-federal-government/

https://www.npr.org/2009/12/19/121667905/the-man-who-conned-the-pentagon

[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 months ago

Sorry, autocorrect screwed me. I was asking if you had any good reads to recommend. Thanks!

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Dude is a clown.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The fact that he did a “prove me wrong” instead of a “here’s the proof” tells me, at minimum, had a suspicion that the proof had no merit.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, he admitted at some point the "5 mil to prove me wrong" was a publicity stunt to drum up media coverage of his conference.

He thought it was impossible to prove a negative, but in this case the data was so clearly unrelated to any election, much less election fraud, the judge found that the confrence go-er had proved him wrong.

an employee of his testified that he doesn’t even have an IDE installed on his computer.

that doesn't make him not a programmer, plenty of linux pilled programmers don't use IDEs.

Hell some of the really prominent ones use shit like text mate, DHH for example.