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[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The amount of left wing folks on some of the more extreme instances bashing the most left wing people in the American Democratic party because they're not complete socialist idiologes is just wild. Like I want to see a major shift towards some form of democratic socialism in America and think we definitely need real change in that direction, but the hatred for elected officials closest to your views just because they aren't extreme enough for you is silly.

I don't understand why they feel the need to attack the left win branch of the DNC when Joe Manchin equists. When the Republican party exists. Focus efforts on some positive change and getting people you want in office instead of trying to tear down what should be an ally. Make the people you think aren't extreme left enough the conservatives of a new wave. The defeatest attitude that just criticizes the closest thing they have to what they want is just silly.

Other than a violent change of the guard/revolution. It's not going to be an instant process. You have to accept small progress where you can get it.

[–] cloud9@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hatred of allies: NO

Holding our allies' feet to the fire: YES

We should not meekly accept a few crumbs.

We should fight, unapologetically, for 100% of everything we want to see. When did the right wing tea party say "Thank you for meeting us half way, we are so grateful, we will now go along to get along." Never. The right wing get 80% of everything they want from an absolute minority position precisely because they fight for 100% of everything they want 100% of the time. The left needs to pay attention.

There are no long term allies, only long term interests.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

When did the right wing tea party say “Thank you for meeting us half way, we are so grateful, we will now go along to get along.”

They also never said "we refuse to vote as some kind of moronic protest against politicians not far right enough for us".

The Tea Party gained control of a significant fraction of the Republican party by voting in primary elections, something which we on the left are too stupid to do.

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