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[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That's a nice thought.

Then you suddenly realize no one knows up from down or down from up. Society would shift on such a massive scale people would probably just stick their smartphones in a drawer and only use them to message people they already know personally and check them a few times a day like an answering machine.

Then suddenly you realize you haven't heard about Ukraine, Russia, Israel or Palestine in months. It's November 28th and you heard someone mention a 'new president' but you didn't even vote. Shit, you forgot to vote. There were no social media or news websites reminding you about the election and you didn't have it on your new wall calendar yet! Ah that's what all those "Vote Now!!!" yard signs were about, fuck....

It's a nice thought, but the internet is powered by ads. (Almost?) Every subscription-supported website is also ad-supported. The internet would basically go under. AFAIK all the Lemmy apps have ads too. It'd be a nice change to get back to get a force shove back to the early-mid 90's. Maybe we'd do things differently. People would certainly be outside talking to each other a lot more.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

This sounds like the kind of thing a Zoomer who has no memory of life before the Internet -- or the Internet of the '90s before the advertisers got a hold of it, for that matter -- would write.

AFAIK all the Lemmy apps have ads too.

LOL, nope. Try getting your apps from F-Droid instead of the Google Play Store.

[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Genuine questions: If we get rid of all the ads, how do news companies get funded? Information can be freely copied and redistributed online -- including all news articles. How would our favorite tech sites be funded?

I'll be honest, I donate every chance I get to support devs for the awesome free software and services they provide, but news is different. I don't actually pay for any news. It comes from so many sources. What's the best financial model for news companies in a capitalist society? As a consumer, what's the ethical model for paying for or consuming news?

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 0 points 4 months ago

@grue@lemmy.world has whored his karma already, he isn't answering these additional questions which call into question his false assumptions.

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

This sounds like the kind of thing a Zoomer who has no memory of life before the Internet -- or the Internet of the '90s before the advertisers got a hold of it, for that matter -- would write.

To clear that up, I'm coming up on 40. We got our first family computer with a 56k modem in 1995. I'm not saying ads are a good thing, I'm telling you that 99% of websites are ad-powered.

Back then companies had websites as a novelty, or way to find information about their company. All the newspapers that had websites were simply putting their major articles on the internet as a bonus, and as a business strategy to push subscriptions for their physical paper. Most everyone still purchased a subscription to their physical newspapers and magazines. Now, basically nobody has a newspaper or magazine subscription unless it's online, but most people still don't... The tech savvy use archive.ph and similar, and the old and non tech-savvy use their 3-article limit and might buy a month subscription to read an article they really have to read, or maybe even a year like the old days, but most don't pay for a subscription at all, and that's where the ads come in.

However, since social media has become the dominant news-spreading mechanism, many or most don't even read articles. They read headlines and talk shit or ask questions in the comments section, of things which were answered in the article. In the 90s those people would be reading the articles as something to do, and to stay somewhat informed. Today, their smartphone would ding or buzz before they finished the first article.

P.S. I'm Degoogled and use Graphene without GSF on my main profile so I use Aurora, Neo Store, and F-Droid. Currently using Boost installed with Aurora. What's a good recommendation for a good, fast, FOSS Lemmy client that doesn't show ads that I can get with F-Droid?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 4 months ago
[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I use Eternity, which is based on the old Infinity app for that other platform

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm really liking this, thank you for the suggestion.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago

No problem! Happy to help!

Sent from Eternity