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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Correct, I have this expressed with the line:

Track 3 promises no death at all, but if collaborative action fails, track 2 wins due to a more cohesive bloc and everyone has to watch their children die.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

...This, honestly, sounds like less of a trolley problem and more of a prisoners dilemma. As in, if ~~everyone~~ enough people defect, you get track 2, if enough people don't defect, you get track 3, and track 1 is if it's in between.

Of course, the problem, then, is that it would imply the people aiming for track 2 will defect, people aiming for track 3 won't, and people aiming for track 1 would try to convince people not to defect, while defecting themselves.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 months ago

You’re not wrong. Especially with the fact that copious capital goes into political campaigning from all sides; it’s kind of like a prisoner’s dilemma where the prisoners can communicate—for a price but both tracks 1 and 2 are well funded by corporate interest while 3 is just kind of left to fend for itself.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Quiet you! If you say anything else we'll get flooded with the trolley/prisoner fusion experiment spam from reddit!

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's the rightful punishment for misuse of philosophical thought experiments.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I mean tbf given the original intent of the creator any use of the experiment aside from pointing and laughing at the stupid idiots who the two decisions represent is a misuse