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So I saw this post here a couple days ago about music piracy and got interested in soulseek. I've installed nicotine in a docker container and started searching for some music. I've found some pretty hard to find music and this album my father used to have in vynil when I was a kid. Cool. But the files had PRIVATE written on them.. Tried to download but the user did not share them with me. My question is: what's the point of sharing folders in a p2p program and denying access to these folders? I mean..just don't share it if you won't let anybody download it. Am I missing something in order to download this album?

Edit: hey guys I sent a message to the user asking if he could share the folder with me and he answered that he'd added me and I could download whatever I wanted! Great! Thanks for the help!

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[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Do you have a folder that’s being shared? Some users only share with others who share.

You can also message the person and ask if they would be willing to make that folder public.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, some dickheads apparently want to monetize and should die in a fire, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Patience usually does the trick, but I need to work out how to filter Private out of search results.

[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] fernandu00@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Wow... I mean,if you paid for your music and don't want to share it,OK ..just don't share it

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago

I ran across it somewhere, greed makes it sound plausible, but I have no direct evidence.

[–] fernandu00@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

I'm gonna try asking for the files thanks

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

you can hide private files in search results, at least in nicotine

[–] fernandu00@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Cool..I'm gonna try that so I don't get frustrated to find some cool music that I'm not able to download.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Figured that was likely, haven't found it yet.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Preferences -> Searches -> toggle Show privately shared files in search results

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago

Thanks, literally the second option. Blind!

[–] Doranwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Precisely. Too many people get on and just want to leech (a few just don't know how to share, but those usually figure it out pretty quickly when asked). What's wrong with not wanting leechers to hog slots for hours upon hours grabbing large files they don't have any intention of sharing back to the community? I'm sure some people are jerks about hoarding their special folders (though I honestly don't know how anyone can possibly monetize it and I've never heard of that happening, that sounds more like paranoia to me), but some people are just tired of those entitled folks who think sharers are there only to provide them with what they want when they want it (and who will curse you out if you dare ask them to actually have a list even if you don't want anything from it).

And it might have absolutely nothing to do with rare vs. not-rare, despite what some people think (some people share small files with everyone but reserve large files for those who've proven they're actually interested in sharing and not just downloading what they can without giving back). No one has an obligation to dump all their bandwidth at hit-and-run downloaders.

My formative years in P2P were spent in a community where everyone helped each other out, were very kind and generous - but one cardinal rule was that You Did Not Leech. You shared something, even if you only had a handful of files, you shared what you could and tried to build a decent list.

[–] fernandu00@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah I can understand that about leechers..that's why I tried to run a docker container to have my files accessible 24/7 in my home server. The same thing with torrent.. I let the files a long time seeding to give back what I took. I hope I slowly find some cool music from people that let me download..gonna try asking them to share the folder to see if I get luck..thanks

[–] fernandu00@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah I'm sharing my music library.. It's not much but I have around 15Gb of music I've been downloading since kazaa and linewire era. I have a couple of flacs too now that I have lidarr running. I'm gonna try asking for the files thanks.