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[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From my limited understanding as a common pleb, they are inserting DRM into Chromium browsers to prevent ad-blockers.

[–] Lem0n@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Internet with no ad-blockers is like a nightmare

[–] fuser@quex.cc 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes, it is a nightmare. The insane volume of ads and clickbait injected into web pages is killing the internet as an information source. Most of the searchable stuff is unusable. Which explains why ChatGPT was so enthusiastically embraced - it's really just synthesizing content into a readable form that doesn't require navigating around a jungle of animated gifs and flashing ads. That's also I think why Lemmy and Mastodon are so refreshing to use, and hopefully will stay that way - although money seems to find a way to ruin everything. Lemmy right now feels a lot like the internet used to be before the big money came along and ruined it with advertising and platform lock-ins.

[–] Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@fuser @Lem0n, the only AI I most use and which is really useful for me is Andisearch.
https://andisearch.com

[–] fuser@quex.cc 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://andisearch.com looks like it might be a better option - thank you so much for posting. I'm mostly using duck-duck-go which is tolerable but by this point we should have come up with a more useful way to index relevant information. Google would rather we see ads than any relevant content, which wasn't the case when they first launched google in the late 1990s. Google was refreshing at the time because of its cleaner interface than yahoo and uncluttered results, amusingly enough - it's a far cry from what it once was.

[–] Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@fuser, Andi certainly is a fresh wind, it was the first search engine with AI which appears, before Google, Bing and the others. Great work of two very nice and friendly devs, Angie Hoover and Jed White, with an open ear to the user in their Discord channel for suggestions, feature request, bug report (well, it's still in developement) or simple chat.

[–] fuser@quex.cc 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, thanks again for the info - I'm trying it now and the results seem excellent, it took me to wikiwand, which I'd never used but it's a front end for wikipedia - it's quite nice. I've learned so much about alternative FOSS and great ad-free content by reading and posting here. I was never a great fan of reddit - liked to scroll but hardly ever posted there - I thought RPAN was the coolest thing they did - but Lemmy is great for conversation, despite the relatively small user base - I'm grateful that reddit's nonsense drove so many helpful people here.

[–] Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@fuser, the fediverse has nothing to do with monolithic social networks, controlled by large multinationals. It doesn't matter if you use an instance of Lemmy, Friendica, Diaspora, or Mastodon. etc., are really of the people and independent of large corporations and linkable with each other. Here in Mastodon I see posts of all these in my Timeline and I suppose you too, like the one where I am.

[–] fuser@quex.cc 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didn't notice that you were posting from Mastodon as I'm on Lemmy and your posts appear here just like any other Lemmy user - but the @fuser at the start of your messages is probably the tell, I think Mastodon defaults the username you're replying to, whereas Lemmy doesn't. It's great that we can use different applications without some corporate gatekeeper capturing everybody's personal info at the integration point to hawk to an advertising company.

[–] Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 1 year ago

@fuser, apart of Vivaldi social, the instance made by the Vivaldi browser for it's users, I'm also since long time ago in Lemmy.ml (with another Nick), also conected to Mastodon.

[–] Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 1 year ago

@fuser, with Mastodon you can even logging in Pixelfed. I love the #fediverse.

[–] dmanls@social.vivaldi.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@fuser @Lem0n Regarding articles, I just save them to a read-later app that strips them of all the crap. If the site won't let me, I'll find another source reporting the same information, and save it to read later. If this process ultimately fails without a saved page, I won't read the article.

[–] fuser@quex.cc 4 points 1 year ago

Right - that's a good approach, however if you're looking for a quick answer to an immediate question by searching using a common search engine, the garbage SEO pages are the most irritating, even with adblocking.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Living the dream.

[–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair, it is useful for other purposes, but the cost to users is likely to be huge, with ad blocking being one of them. It probably also prevents other things even outside your browser because there's no point in securing a browser running in an untrusted environment. IIRC there is/was an issue running Netflix on certain Android devices and rooted devices after a similar feature was added to Android.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 3 points 1 year ago

This would also hurt users that need accessibility extensions so they can properly browse websites that don't have good accessibility features.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

My S7 was running a custom rom, I had to manually download and install the Netflix apk, as the play store wouldn't let me do it. WhatsApp was weird too, it would let you install, but there were a bunch of aggravating bugs, like if your device was on it showed you as "online". Got in trouble at work because my boss thought I was on my phone all day.