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[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

The only libertarians in the general population's consciousness are right-wing, as libertarian political parties were literally financed by fossil fuel, tobacco, and weapons manufacturer oligarchs — the US Libertarian parties first presidential candidate was a fucking Koch bro (billionaire fossil fuel oligarch) — all because they wanted to pay less taxes and deregulate their businesses, after regulations like the clean air act meant they could no longer destroy waterways and create acid rain without consequence.

99% of the human population have no idea that left-wing libertarians exist, or that libertarianism was considered left-wing and progressive prior to right-wing appropriation in the 1960/70's.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

prior to right-wing appropriation in the 1960/70's.

Because when its been this way for long enough to be considering retirement, the way it used to be is pretty irrelevant to the discussion.

It's like calling Republicans the party of Lincoln. It has no connection to today's politics.

[–] III@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

It has no connection to today’s politics.

"We are the party of Lincoln, so let us fly our confederate flags!" I mean, it does connect... just in an "opposite day" kind of way.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Libertarian politics is not Libertarianism. Do you consider the Democratic Republic of North Korea to have forever tainted the concept of Democracy?

[–] toaster@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Libertarian is the opposite of authoritarian on the political compass. It's a shame that it's had a phase shift in meaning and most people assume it's right-wing libtertarianism, i.e. turbo capitalism with no rules/regulations.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

100% this. And it's sad. Because there actually aren't any right wing libertarians. They are (economic) liberals. Rejecting basic tenants of Libertarianism like public ownership of natural resources , and tack on insane BS like the NAP. The man who coined the term libertarian, defined what it was, fought in the fucking French Revolution. He also rallied and fought against the same Liberals larping as libertarians today.