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I just installed EndeavorOS on an HP Spectre360 that’s roughly 2 years old. I am honestly surprised at how easy it went. If you google it, you’ll get a lot of “lol good luck installing linux on that” type posts - so I was ready for a battle.

Turned off secure boot and tpm. Booted off a usb stick. Live environment, check. Start installer and wipe drive. Few minutes later I’m in. Ok let’s find out what’s not working…

WiFi check. Bluetooth check. Sound check (although a little quiet). Keyboard check. Screen resolution check. Hibernates correctly? Check. WTF I can’t believe this all works out the box. The touchscreen? Check. The stylus pen check. Flipping the screen over to a tablet check. Jesus H.

Ok, everything just works. Huh. Who’d have thunk?

Install programs, log into accounts, jeez this laptop is snappier than on windows. Make things pretty for my wife and install some fun games and stuff.

Finished. Ez. Why did I wait so long? Google was wrong - it was cake.

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not having a great time with DisplayLink driver support, personally. Various applications I use with mixed levels of support too, along with missing out on Windows specific GPU features.

This has been my most successful round of Linux adoption, but there are still niggling issues and confusion. The biggest difficulty is that my accumulated support knowledge of like 20 years is useless and I am relearning basic issue identification and resolution processes.

The internet being a raging dumpster fire, support is kind of patchy on more niche topics. All the good, useful discussions are largely happening behind closed doors at this point on everyone's Discords and whatnot.

[–] exanime@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m not having a great time with DisplayLink driver support, personally

We used this for work and I had a bit of a hard time setting up 4 years ago when covid hit... I eventually was able to but later on moved on to a different set up.

We still use it on Windows when I go to the office (once a week) and it still shit there

If you post specifics I may be able to help you.

Various applications I use with mixed levels of support too, along with missing out on Windows specific GPU features.

well yes... Windows specific stuff is not usually available in Linux... unless we are talking about gaming which is catching up really quick

The biggest difficulty is that my accumulated support knowledge of like 20 years is useless and I am relearning basic issue identification and resolution processes.

Yes, it's a different OS... not sure if you were expecting any differently but this is the power of the walled gardens... you learn to live in them and then find it hard to do anything differently... IMO the transition was worth it for me... I hope it is for you

The internet being a raging dumpster fire, support is kind of patchy on more niche topics. All the good, useful discussions are largely happening behind closed doors at this point on everyone’s Discords and whatnot.

This is what I disagree with... that has not been my experience AT ALL. The worst I can say about online support for Linux is that, some communities, are a little caustic (looking at you Arch support, although you do have great online help posted).

If anything, when I can't seem to find anything regarding something I am looking for, I have defaulted to realizing I may not be asking the right question... RARELY discussions for Linux support happen behind closed doors... it's just not even in the spirit of the Linux communities. Again, if you'd like to post specifics maybe we can help

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I'm going to try to take this in the spirit that it was provided, but you're using a lot of "..."s, and a lot of implications that what I'm saying is obvious, for a person trying to provide earnest assistance. I wasn't requesting technical support or expressing surprise at these things, I was merely expressing that these were the things I was generally encountering difficulty with my transition to Linux as a daily driver.

The DisplayLink driver for instance is running, and basically functional, but ends up running slowly, with distortions, and instability. It also isn't signed, so my plan to still run Secure Boot with the distro I'm using alongside Windows is out (without a lot of faff), but that largely won't matter excusing some specific work setups that I don't currently have to worry about. Having useful AMD specific driver level tools on Windows that don't exist in Linux isn't a surprise, it is a discouragement.

Forum content and non-Reddit content are a pain to locate, especially when you don't know how to frame your problem in Linux syntax, as you say. Communities are either open but in specific places that I will never find without already knowing about it, or happening in places that aren't accessible without having already joined, like the Discord of the specific software I need guidance on. My experience has been that there is basic info and there is advanced info out there, but intermediate info that lets you bridge the gap is a challenge to locate, especially with subtle differences in certain steps that are distro/package manager specific. Yet I press on.

[–] exanime@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago

BTW, told my kids about your comment on my abuse of the "..." and they choked laughing for like half an hour. So there is that hehehehe

[–] exanime@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago

I'm going to try to take this in the spirit that it was provided, but you're using a lot of "..."s,

No ill will intended. You must be young and I'm old, my kids constantly complain about my abuse of the "..." They say I always sound ominous

The only part my intention was to sound like "well, yes that's obvious" was the part where you missed some windows specific GPU functions

For the rest I was meaning to say that I recognize those problems but didnt find them insurmountable at the time I had to face them.

I still have to deal with windows today because of work and I find the amount of orphan issues (or issues with no solution 3 years after reporting) saddening because I rarely see that in the Linux community

True, I may be "over the hump" in terms of the initial learning curve but I encourage you to keep at it, you'll find it enjoyable in no time