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A federal judge on Friday narrowed a section of Georgia election law that banned the practice of handing out food and water to voters waiting in line to cast ballots, as well as halted enforcement of a requirement that voters put their birth dates on the outer envelope of their ballots.

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[–] mxcory@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But you already weren't allowed to campaign within 150ft of a poling place or 25ft of a voter standing in line. So, that would have already been a solved issue.

This is from the 2010 GA code.

O.C.G.A. 21-2-414 (2010)

(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign literature, newspaper, booklet, pamphlet, card, sign, paraphernalia, or any other written or printed matter of any kind, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition or conduct any exit poll or public opinion poll with voters on any day in which ballots are being cast:

(1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is established;

(2) Within any polling place; or

(3) Within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.

Edit: I personally believe that the food and water restriction was to make people not want to stick out waiting 2+ hours in line. Unfortunately people seem to have to wait multiple hours every election.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's 100% another move by republicans to block black voters. There won't be lines where the white voters are a majority.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There won’t be lines where the white voters are a majority

This is the biggest reason that compulsory voting like we have in Australia is so good.

It's not a violation of free speech at all. You can always choose to just hand in a blank or deliberately-spoilt ballot.

But what it does mean is that the Government is forced to provide adequate resources to polling places to ensure that everyone is able to conveniently vote. You can't get away with nearly as much voter suppression when everyone has to vote.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't help but feel this is an optimistic view. There's plenty of things everyone has to do in America that are still much more convenient or differently funded in rich or white areas. For example, going to school or getting government ID.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're legally required to vote but voting is made into a very painful experience, who are you going to vote for? The guy that made it very difficult?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, if you haven't been brainwashed into believing it was the other guy who made it very difficult.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, most people would believe the bad guy was the one who made it mandatory.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Sweet child...

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If the voting experience is sufficiently onerous, people will still not vote and pay the penalty (or go to jail). Then it'll be just another tax/burdon on people in disadvantaged areas.

Looks like Western Australia charges $50 for repeated failure to vote. $50 Australian ($31 USD) to not take off work to stand in line for 3 hours getting sunburnt? That's less than minimum wage in my state. It would make financial sense to just go to work and pay the penalty, ignoring the less tangible potential long-term benefit of effecting change in favor of paying rent.

[–] Nottalottapies@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Except voting day in Australia is on a weekend, not during the week. And there are also pre polling centres, where if you plan to be away on vacation or working on voting day, you can go along to a pre poll centre and vote weeks in advance. Australia also has mail in and even telephone voting for those unable to visit these centres.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Some would, for sure. But some would stick it out. And even in many areas thought of as deeply red, the margin required to flip the result is not that much. If you have a previous voter turnout of 2/3, and just 1/4 of the previous non-voters end up voting because it's mandatory, that's an 8 point swing. That would have been enough to swing 4 more states in 2020, as well as Maine's 2nd district. Or if it were the Democrats responsible for attempted voter suppression, those same stats would see 7 states plus Nevada's 2nd flip to Republican. That's looking at the presidential race because the stats were easiest to find and compare, but it's likely even more pertinent in congressional races. Enough of the races would be close enough to basically guarantee the side supporting people's democratic rights will win a majority of seats.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I don’t see this working at all. If it does for you guys, that’s great, but we’re talking places where voting rights are already protected. None of these laws actually prevent people from voting, but can discourage enough to make a difference. Even if it’s partisan, the results skew quite racist. It’s only a few places in the US where officials think they can get away with this, but it’s definitely huge news.

Fr a specific example, I believe there was something in Texas like one place to drop off mail in votes per county. Maybe that’s even reasonable in most counties, but not when one county is the city of Houston. Do you really think a measly fine would make people endure that wait?