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So I took the plunge and installed Fedora Silverblue because of all that immutable buzz. And it's the most frustrating change I have made in almost 20 years of my distrohopping.

After installing Silverblue I configured it as usual. I installed necessary flatpaks, played with toolbox and distrobox, installed codecs, configured my bluetooth keyboard and other stuff in /etc and /var. Applied some useful tweaks I found on the web and... well... everything works. Nothing to do anymore. No issues. Nothing breaks, no dependency hell, everything runs smooth. I have nothing to tweak, tinker or configure anymore. So frustrating.

Every update is just... meh. Smooth, new, fresh system not affected by my stupid tweaking and breaking. Booooring.

I don't have to distrohop anymore. If I want other distros I can just install them in distrobox. Other versions of apps? Something from AUR perhaps...? No problem. What's the point of distrohopping now? Other DEs? I just rebase my system to other images with almost any DE or WM I want without losing data or messing everything up (damn you, UBlue!).

I don't even have to reinstall the damn thing cause every time I update the system or rebase it to another image it's like reinstalling it.

Silverblue killed distrohopping for me. Really frustrating.

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[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Love the irony, but this is painting a little too good a picture

Every update is just… meh. Smooth, new, fresh system not affected by my stupid tweaking and breaking

Most times yes, but major updates usually cause some trouble, like from 39 to 40, you couldn't do it without uninstalling the codecs for Firefox. Firefox that is installed by default as an RPM, because the Flatpak Firefox doesn't yet have 100% compatibility with all the features that work with the RPM, so as a user you're pretty much led to get yourself stuck in this hole, not too difficult to fix in the end, but still a pain to find out and fix.

Everything else is 100% true! And I think it will be always hard to beat as an implementation of immutability (second place only to NixOS imo), A/B partitioning doesn't hold a candle to OSTree

[–] Unreliable@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Weird. I use Bazzite which is off of Kinoite and the upgrade from 39 -> 40 was seamless.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 3 points 5 months ago

Doesn't Bazzite have the base image modified to have the codecs included already? I think that's probably why you didn't experience any disruption there

  • Full hardware accelerated codec support for H264 decoding.

link: https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/?tab=readme-ov-file#about--features

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you couldn’t do it without uninstalling the codecs for Firefox

what happened is rpm-fusion was lagging behind the official fedora repos, so, you could have just waited, or enabled the automatic update and forget about it

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is that so? From the issue I read there was no way around it because the two images are fundamentally incompatible once you layer that package, you had to remove the layered package, it seemed from the discussion that they might have "fixed" the base image at some point as a pull request was opened on Pagure. I waited a bit for it to go upstream, but nothing happened for a long time and just went thorugh with the manual intervention, and actually, now that I check it again, the maintainer siosm commented that they can't accept the PR

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

oh, i never had that issue, only the rpm-fusion lag, never thought that the codecs needed a different approach