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[–] thefrankring@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I actually do this for complicated letter that I don't know.

Like: ë, ñ, ũ, ü, etc

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

On Android ü just hard press the letter and they all pop up. ñot hárd

[–] thefrankring@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, I know. I was mostly talking on a computer.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Send yourself an email from your phone.

[–] nnrx@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Draw it on a piece of paper and mail it to your computer.

[–] thefrankring@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Yeah, not really lol

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Ctrl-period or Ctrl-comma. Granted, you have to search with your eyes for the correct one, but they are in alphabetical order.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Use compose keys! KDE already has it installed and on Windows you can use WinCompose.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

There's something a bit upsetting about how finding it online is faster and easier than using an application purpose-built for this purpose (Character Map)

[–] Vivendi@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That application was made before the turn of the fucking millennium and it has a bad UI design?

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I know, right?

For real though, Linux Mint comes with what seems to be a clone of it, name included, and I'm pretty sure I've seen other clones of it integrated into writing software. There have been plenty of opportunities to improve on the formula, and the experience is improved slightly, it's just not enough.

Edit: turns out the one in Mint is GNOME Character Map.

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Y'all motherfuckers need the compose key.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

I admit I've never used it, but it seems to require you to know in advance the key presses to get the character you want, so it's not going to help if it's a character you only use rarely.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's even worse on mobile. I have no idea how to do this without changing my phone's whole locale.

[–] gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure about your specific setup, but usually on mobiles you can hold your finger on a letter to see variants/accent marks.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It depends on the keyboard. I've used some in the past that tied that feature to the current language

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago

I actually find it a lot easier on mobile, because you can see all the symbols available to type without having to memorise them or have 2-4 different characters printed on each key. Gboard has almost every special character I ever need to use accessible in its two extra screens, and accented letters like êëéèē accessible by long-pressing the base letter.

Unexpected Keyboard (on F-Droid) is also fantastic for extra characters, give it a try, but I don't use it as a daily driver because of lack of spellcheck and glide typing.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Prêss æñd høld for Samsung and Google keyboards

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Stop that. Data collection concerns.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sigh, it used to be a good piece of software...before Microsoft bought it. I'm not a fan of gboard though. I want something that is very customizable.

[–] glnpf148@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I moved away from Swiftkey for the same reason and currently I'm pretty happy with what Heliboard has to offer. You can download it from F-Droid.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

Samsung Keyboard literally lets you design your own keyboard layout in a surprisingly robust and rich way. I don't know if it's available on non-Samsung phones though, and I can't wholeheartedly recommend it because it has a bunch of flaws and quirks. For example, every once in a while it seems to do select all + copy + paste, without you going anything besides typing normally. This can scroll the text to an inconvenient place, and remove special formatting. On YouTube if you're replying to a comment it destroys the username you're replying to, replacing the special highlight with just their name in plain text.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I used to google for it, but now I ask chatgpt. Thats probably way worse resource-wise, right?

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

this is causing me physical pain

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you got compose key (linux, mac, windows with third party software), then those are trivial:

ë ñ ũ ü, and even åâăāãȧaąàáæª₂2²

Goes like Compose e ", Compose n ~, etc

But a thing to note that resulting letters are generic and not region-specific,

like that ë (U+00EB LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS)

is not the same as ё (U+0451 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IO)

Which might trigger spellcheckers or not even be displayed in certain fonts

There's also apparently some weird combos like Compose+:) for and Compose+CCCP for , but no easily available keys for greek letters unless you tweak configs...

[–] thefrankring@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Thanks for the advice, but it's not important enough for me to do it.

I barely use any of these letters anyway.