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[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Linux is close, but has some core flaws that will forever keep it out of mainstream acceptance by your average user.

It has nothing to do with any flaws within Linux itself. The problem is and has always been that it's nearly impossible to buy a PC with any flavour of Linux pre-installed. Until that changes, Linux (on home user desktops) will never gain mainstream acceptance.

[–] Tekkip20@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Didn't HP sell some fancy shmancy laptops that came with Ubuntu or some flavor of it? Think it was for developers but I thought that was the closest we gotten to commercially selling Linux based machines.

P.S. I could be wrong about this but I am sure this happened.

[–] echindod@programming.dev 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

HP sold he DevOne, it had PopOS on it. Dell sells an XPS developer machine that has Ubuntu pre installed. System76, Entroware, and Tuxedo computers have all been selling Linux hardware for a long time. So there are viable commercial options. I wish the DevOne were going to get refreshed, it looks like a nice machine but alas, I don't think it will.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Linux really needs to be on the floor at BestBuy on base models, just a little cheaper than the Windows models. If that's the case, I think people will try it.

But if it's only on one or two premium models and online only, that's not good enough.

[–] echindod@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

On the one hand, I think you are right, people who know can find a Linux computer if they know where to look. And they should be easier to find. On the other hand, I don't think many people by laptops at Best Buy any more. Maybe if BestBuy had one people would try it and see, but I feel like best buy is the place you go to buy a TV or a charging chord for your phone.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People buy things they see advertised. Being visible on the floor of BestBuy is advertisement. If it's just an option on a website, they're unlikely to try it, but if they see it as a "normal thing" that's available at retailers, they might consider it.

At least that's the assumption I'm going off of.

[–] echindod@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago

The lack of advertising is a big one, that's for sure. And Dell isn't spending any of their advertisement budget to brag about Linux.

Maybe that's what canonical should spend it's money on rather than snaps :-) (half joking...maybe )

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's possible they did. I think Dell briefly discussed it as an option, before using it as leverage to get cheaper Windows licenses from Microsoft. The EEE PC also shipped with its own Linux distro and appropriate hardware drivers.

This was why I said "nearly impossible" :)

[–] echindod@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

You can go to the Dell website today and filter by Operating System and select Ubuntu. Through Project Sputnik, Dell has been selling laptops with Ubuntu for over a decade. It's a pretty interesting story, but I couldn't find a summary of it online easily.

[–] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

I agree. Most people won't switch to Linux because they have never used it and think they'll have to relearn computers from scratch.