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[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 64 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Please address him by his proper title:

Convicted felon Donald Trump

[–] Sternhammer@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Technically not ‘convicted’ until sentenced but that day is coming.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

IANAL but dictionary.com disagrees with you.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/convicted#:~:text=Phonetic%20(Standard)%20IPA-,adjective,and%20is%20moved%20to%20prayer.

"proven or declared guilty of an offense, especially after a legal trial"

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some disinformation troll is conflating convict (as in the act of convicting) with the common usage of convict (someone currrently serving their sentence) and a bunch of people are falling for it.

My guess is once that is finally put to rest my guess is the next one will be claiming he isn't really convicted until he exhausts all his appeals or some other magical fairy tale.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Oh there are folks already claiming the 'not until appeals' bit. Basically anything to calm the dissonance between 'law and order party' and 'convicted felon is out nominee'

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago

Realistically, isn't that really the point where he actually faces any consequences?

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

He is and always will be a convicted felon from the moment is is convicted unless he is pardoned.

He will only be a convict whle is is serving his sentence.

If he lives long enough to finish his sentence he won't be a convict anymore, but will still be a convicted felon.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 7 points 5 months ago

I'm glad the feds dropped this case and New York picked it up for the simple reason that a pardon could only come from the New York governor. It's not in the president's power to pardon state convictions, which may be important going forward.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then he'll be a pardoned felon

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, then he will have been pardoned and no longer a felon (assuming every felony is pardoned)

[–] EldestMalk@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago

A pardon is an admission of guilt.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He would no longer be a convicted felon if the conviction was overturned on appeal, but that unlikely scenario is the only future where he isn't a convicted felon

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