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    [–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    While courts have ruled source code is first amendment protected. Your statement is still very very wrong. Just because it's first amendment protected doesn't mean it can't be classified normally or made illegal to leak because of ITAR.

    But go leak some of the source code from XKeyscore or a schematic of a pair of GPNVG if you'd like to test our code classification and ITAR systems.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not taking about sealing some government secrets. I'm taking about building a fun hobby project with some sort of targeting system. Think a small rocket that drops a payload or a water balloon launcher.

    [–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

    Okay but that has no relevance at all to what the comment you were replying to was about. Companies contracted by the government and DOD specifically to create rockets are guaranteed to be covered by ITAR. Meaning open sourcing them would be impossible, regardless of the first amendment or anything else.

    There's a massive massive difference between the software for a DOD contracted rocket like SpaceX makes, and hobbyist rocketry.

    [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    In the U.S., you can build rockets all day long, they cannot be guided.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2332g

    You'd have to convince the feds it was never designed to be a weapon. Good luck with that.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    That only applies to the hardware. I'm taking about software

    [–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Why do you think software would be treated any differently?

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Again, because source code is protected under the first amendment

    [–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Okay but again as has been pointed out to you, that has no bearing on government contracted products like this, whether that's code or rockets or anything else the government doesn't want to just share with the entire world.

    [–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    That's like saying hate speech/discrimination is protected under the first amendment

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago

    It is

    With that being said you can be arrested for harassment and or disturbing the peace.