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Electric vehicles and hybrid electric vehicles were found to be approximately twice as likely, on average, to collide with a pedestrian than internal combustion engine vehicles (press.psprings.co.uk)
submitted 5 months ago by Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world
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Cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/20086798

During 2013–2017, casualty rates per 100 million miles were 5.16 (95% CI 4.92 to 5.42) for E- HE vehicles and 2.40 (95%CI 2.38 to 2.41) for ICE vehicles, indicating that collisions were twice as likely (RR 2.15; 95% CI 2.05 to 2.26) with E-HE vehicles. Poisson regression found no evidence that E-HE vehicles were more dangerous in rural environments (RR 0.91; 95% CI 0.74 to 1.11); but strong evidence that E-HE vehicles were three times more dangerous than ICE vehicles in urban environments (RR 2.97; 95% CI 2.41 to 3.7). Sensitivity analyses of missing data support main findings.

  • "Pedestrian safety on the road to net zero: cross-sectional study of collisions with electric and hybrid-electric cars in Great Britain". Phil J Edwards, Siobhan Moore, Craig Higgins. 2024-05-21. J Epidemiol Community Health.
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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Damn that is a huge effect size… I am shocked, especially given safety features that now exist on newer cars (unless they normalized for car age).

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I'm not shocked at all. I've almost been hit like 3 times in parking lots by silent EVs.

As a pedestrian, I was certainly unaware at how much I relied on my hearing to generate my situational awareness around cars. Each time, the driver wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary, either.

Honestly, as the pedestrian in this scenario, I'd rather the vehicle cue me on where it is and what it's doing than give the driver another sensor to ignore. Give me as the pedestrian some tools to work with. Let me be involved.

It doesn't have to be as loud as a big diesel truck. A ford focus is fine.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

especially given safety features that now exist on newer cars

Do note that the dataset that they used is from 2013-2017.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Interesting. When did they start adding noise to low speed EVs? I wonder how this analysis would look for newer vehicles.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

When did they start adding noise to low speed EVs?

At least 2016 (in the USA) [source (archive)].