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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Actually, the closest I've come to colliding with someone doing this shit is when I was riding my bike - on the correct side of the road - and suddenly encountered a cyclist (a mom towing her two kids on a trailer, no less) head-on coming the wrong way around a blind turn. I was barely able to avoid hitting her; if I'd been in a car going 25 mph I almost certainly would have hit her.

It's just fucking stupid because it's contrary to other drivers' (and cyclists') expectations and gives them virtually no chance of avoiding the situation or reacting correctly, and it also happens to be straight-up illegal.

[–] regul@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And yet had you collided, it's very unlikely that anyone would have died.

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Unsafe behavior isn't made okay just because the risk of death is minimal. The mother could have been concussed or had a broken bone, for all we know. If things go pear shaped and the trailer tips over, you could have the kids dumped out into traffic on one side, or down a ditch on the other, for all we know. This line of thinking, that it's okay as long as it's not equally dangerous as it would be in a car, makes no sense.

[–] regul@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There will always be people who do not act with regard to the safety of others. I would rather those people be on bikes than in cars.

I'm not discussing the morality of this action in a vacuum. I'm discussing it in comparison to the same person behaving equally as unsafely in a car.

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Sure, all other factors being equal, it would be less severe with everyone on bikes, but your initial post read rather dismissively to me. Rather than, "Well at least it wasn't a car and they didn't die," it came across to me like "Nobody was in a car and it was unlikely to kill them, so it's not a problem." Perhaps that wasn't your intent, but it's certainly how I interpreted it. We can advocate for a safer mode of transit while also calling out dangerous behavior by people using our preferred mode.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Bikes can be lethal. See my other comment here.