As a meat eater, it's shit like this which is why I've been buying more vegetarian shit. Every week there's a new food recall. People are getting real sick and dying.

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Same here. I tried out blackbean burgers, plant-based hot dogs, tofu and almond milk in my last couple of grocery runs, just to see what's up. Turns out I really like tofu as a substitute for ground beef, and the veggie dogs tasted just like all beef franks to me. And none of these things were any more expensive than meat, so that's also a big plus.

[–] rolaulten@startrek.website 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Which veggie dog worked for you? I can't find one that grills correctly.

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're from "Morning Star Farms," though I was careful to only say that they taste right, haha -- They don't plump up when cooked, and are prone to scorching in spots on the grill. But the flavor is spot on!

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you can find some TVP in the shape of a steak, that stuff is also insane to me.
Like, I'm kind of not qualified to actually compare it to a steak, but my body instantly gave me that vegetarian gag reflex when I first had it, because it has that same chewiness.

And yeah, it's really cheap. You can just have it in your cupboard for an eternity. And to prepare it, you just boil it in salt water / stock for a few minutes, press out the water and throw it into a hot pan to sear it like a steak.
The Maillard reaction does its thing and somehow this chunk of goddamn defatted soy beans does not taste healthy anymore.

[–] aulin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Also making seitan from flour is super easy. If I could get my hands on pure gluten it would be insanely easy. Maybe not as rich in taste as soy meat, but so much cheaper than store bought meat analogues.

[–] LSNLDN@slrpnk.net 8 points 7 months ago

As an ex meat eater, this is what made me eventually go vegan

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Same. Me too. When i buy meat, then it's only organic and the best ethical treatment I can find. And also waaaaaay less in general. It just became bad in every sense of way and plant-based stuff has gotten so much better over the last 3 decades.

Only thing that pisses me off is that the food my food eats is even more expensive for no apparent reason (edit: yes ofc i know the socio-economic reasons. As a consumer i just don't care. That's what i meant)

[–] Makeshift@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Meat and dairy are heavily subsidized by the government (at least in US). Government subsidies for animal agriculture allow them to sell for cheaper because they can sell for less than what it actually costs to make.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago

I know. Same here. Probably the same everywhere. But still pissing me off

[–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's nothing ethical about exploiting and slaughtering an innocent living creature.

I'm not implying anything about your diet, just requesting you break free from the 'muh local farm humane' propaganda and stop deluding yourself.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip -3 points 7 months ago

I know. I was an animal rights activist once (in a time where "vegan" was either an insult or noone knew what it even was). Based on way too much knowledge about what we do with other beings.

And i didn't say "it's ethical", but a local farm where the cows got names and live a great life (up until they stop doing so) surely beats industrialized farming ethically. I doubt you wanna argue there, except you only can live in a binary world (harm/don't harm) . But that would be impossible as a vegan. Unless you're one (i just assumed) because it's fashionable or trendy or just edgy.

Btw something being "humane" doesn't really mean anything ethical. Being sadistic shit-sticks who rape the whole planet raw until there's nothing left is actuallly very "humane". No other species is that horribly aweful.