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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I gotta know, who downvotes this and why?

[–] teft@startrek.website 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably anyone who is sick of seeing this turd in the media. Just like Trump and Musk the more you talk about them, good or bad, the better they feel and the more their profile is raised in the media. These guys are raging narcissists. They don't care if the attention is good or bad, only that you are paying attention to them.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess so. He is pretty annoying, but I think he’s a necessary evil—hear me out. The more we get examples of authoritarianism (while also having a court system to veto him), the more people see what a bad direction it is… hopefully. I don’t have a lot of faith in people at the moment.

[–] CIWS-30@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Before Trump, I would have agreed. But after all the shit he pulled, his support amongst minorities he actively persecuted actually INCREASED by 2020. If anything, seeing shit like this all the time from people like this just normalizes it and makes people desensitized to it.

Stuff like this has to be rare and heavily condemned by a large amount of charismatic and popular people for it to be stopped and not become everyday business. I want less people like this and for them to be taken down faster.

Plus, the more people behave like this openly with few or no consequences, and in the mainstream media no less, the more emboldened people like him become and the more overt they become with their actions. For example: hate groups like the Proud Boys and 3 percenters used to be too scared to be as blatant and public as they are now, but now White Supremacy is loud and proud.

[–] seahorse@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is why simply ignoring fascists doesn't work. Fascists only understand power and violence and therefore must be beaten back into hiding.

Unfortunately, because we live in capitalist hellworld, the media, both "left" and right wing media, will cover everything they do because they generate views.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

It’s the condemnation part we lack. Not enough people willing to do that on “center” news networks. The people who make the real calls follow the money, and whomever gets the most viewers wins.

[–] teft@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago

I'm lacking that faith in humanity as well. Which is why we should ignore this chucklefuck.

[–] Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Filtering by keyword will be glorious when it arrives

[–] gameboyhomeboy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Fascists, probably

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

My biggest problem with it is the implication that DeSantis has a mental illness, or that if he had a mental illness that would be the problem with him. Being fascist is not a mental illness. Mentally healthy people can be fascists. And mentally ill people can have great politics and do great service to the world. Psychology isn't necessary to figure out what's wrong with DeSantis; you just need a heart.

[Edit: "Mentally healthy, well-adjusted people can be fascists" -> "Mentally healthy people can be fascists"]

[–] yuun@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really disagree that you could consider any fascist 'well-adjusted', that's a near complete contradiction in terms.

I do remember wondering if that was good wording. I think what I was trying to get across is that fascists can be friendly, sociable, considerate, even compassionate, in the right circumstances. The human psyche is extremely adept at compartmentalization.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not going out on that limb you're on that he's mentally healthy.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

You can solve for mental illness, you can’t solve for asshole. 🤷‍♂️