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Ford asks suppliers for ideas to cut EV costs in an all-win-or-lose push for profitability (electrek.co)
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[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm going to be honest, I got about half way through, I just wanted to add something some folks may not consider in this discussion.

Since I first got an EV almost a decade ago, I have spent less of my life waiting for it to charge than I had previously spent getting gas.

I'll note that everyone's situation is unique, and I've had the fortune/privilege of having private parking next to a 120v outlet at both of my previous rentals as well as my current home, but the 2s it takes for me to plug in every night, and the very rare 30 min charging session mixed into a 6hr road trip (when I'd be stopping for food/restroom anyways) means less time standing around at the charger than I would have spent at the pump.

I recognize this is a hard concept to sell to some ICE drivers, because all they hear is 30-minute charging session, but it's real. Admittedly this is contingent on you having access to an outlet at home or work, which I recognize doesn't apply to a subset of renters.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

all they hear is 30-minute charging session

Battery swapping assumes battery and car technology doesn’t change. Just a couple years ago, you’d be looking at hour+ stops to recharge on a trip, now it’s approaching 30 minutes. Some of it’s the batteries, some is a better handle on what batteries can take, some of its newer higher voltage vehicles. If there’s any substance to Toyota’s FUD, it will be closer to 15 minutes in a couple more years.

So far it’s been a huge convenience to just plug in at night like I do my phone, and road trips are only a small percentage. Obviously that’s only a plus for those of us who can do that. We really need to focus on incenting landlords and HOAs to install chargers