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Hello I am wondering if there is increased network/packet security by connecting to a server over ssh through a VPN hosted by that same server as opposed to without first tunneling by VPN. I imagine with or without tunneling through a VPN there would be latency/speed differences too?

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[–] Ponziani@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But wouldn't the port being open alert anyone who looks for that? Network security is not my specialty but I believe I have read that people can ping/scan ip addresses easily and quickly to determine if any ports are open / forwarded, so if Wireguard was used or any VPN software, they could pick up on that as an attack vector?

[–] towerful@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wireguard uses UDP.
Wireguard also strives to be "silent" for bad traffic/connection attempts. I've tried a cursory look to find more information on it, but nothing that explains it simply.

Either way it doesn't turn up on port scans.

[–] Ponziani@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But the router must forward the port to allow the VPN to be utilized , meaning that port being forwarded can be scanned/detected i thought?

[–] damium@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago

It depends on how the router responds to other non-forwarded ports. For UDP an open port with no response is the same as a dropped packet. A scanner will only know if the device sends an ICMP response back to indicate that it is closed.