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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 39 points 6 months ago (3 children)

While I like the joke, Wakko is actually a boy. He had a crush on Miss Bambon, so one could assume hetro. Humorously, Dot also had a crush on her. πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I agree that se is obvious supposed to be a boy, but I don't understand your premise. You can be agender and have a crush on a woman.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not really trying to make a point. But he’s not agender. Dot is bisexual though.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nonbinary does not imply asexuality.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

True. Wakko’s pronoun is β€œhe” as the show has decided.

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

And plenty of nonbinary humans use and prefer the pronoun "he"

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Also true. But we must consider the fact that when the show was airing, though I'm sure non-binary people certainly must have existed at the time, non-binary was not something that was part of the mainstream consciousness. So would not have been acceptable in a kids show. And though I'm not sure it would even be acceptable in today's day and age by most mainstream standards, it's more acceptable now than it was 30 years ago.

On top of that it's very likely that most real people at that time who would likely identify as non-binary would not have identified themselves as such and would have chosen a he/she pronoun of some sort to identify themselves in order to conform to the social standard of that time.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Still, we should celebrate the characters who are designed to be nonbinary, to represent that community, not try to decide for that character 30 years later.

[–] Naboo_calls_for_aid@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right, to me it feels dishonest and pandering to change a character later like this. I don't feel it's winning points with anyone.

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh, nevermind then. Yall, no points can be given, this person feels it.

I'm glad you were here to discount the other posters who were enjoying it. That was a close one.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Someone holds a different opinion and is engaging in civil discussion. Boo, not allowed >:[

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Nah. Abed in Community is the best example of how you can have great representation for a group (autistic people) even if the character wasn't initially written with that trait in mind. He was initially just written as a character, not an autistic character. Animaniacs had plenty of gender fuckery going on that kids like me noticed in the 90s

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I did notice it that too. All of them wore clothes opposite of their perceived gender at one point. But it’s a cartoon. They are genderless. And not in a nonbinary way. They are whatever the script tells them to be.

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and in the script in the OP, wakko is genderless and nonbinary

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

In the script it’s also making fun of people who claim they don’t have an agenda, but they really do. It’s subtle, but this is a right-leaning comic.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 5 months ago

But we must consider the fact that when the show was airing,

Hulu rebooted it in 2020. The latest season was released in February, 2023.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

He's a Warner sibling, which means that at any moment he's exactly whatever is necessary for the joke to work.