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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] stembolts@programming.dev -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Sentrovasi@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you literally called the guy stupid and criticised the post for a "complete lack of logic": I agree with the other people that you write incredibly obnoxiously, especially if that's what you regard as "polite". Unfortunately claims of rationality can go hand-in-hand with a pseudo-intellectualism that is really grating when done in earnest.

Maybe rather than consider everyone else racist, you might do a bit of self-reflection and consider why people who clearly acknowledge that the main post is racist (see every other upvoted comment) still consider your post worse than the racism you're criticising.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Sentrovasi@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think you fail to understand that a lot of the people replying to you are solely replying because of your tone. You're not winning any argument against anyone because all they're telling you is that you're obnoxious. You can't spin that into a win over racist people because you need to recognise that people can agree with you and still treat you with hostility.

You're not standing up for anything by being volatile. The only reason why I'm even engaging with you on this is because of your original assumption that people who are making fun of the way you post must clearly be racists. If you can now agree that this is not substantively what they are talking about, and you are okay with that, then both of us can do without your moral grandstanding over how justified you are in doing this.

I just wanted to make sure you understood why people are treating you poorly, and will continue to treat you poorly into the future. These are not going to just be people who disagree with you. These will include people who agree, but think you're a real piece of shit.

Nobody's going to want to answer your "direct questions" or engage with your "assertions" (I'm leaving out "patience" because implicit in the idea of patience is manner, in which tone plays a big part and I still don't think you see it).

Does that mean you "win"? I think maybe everyone will be better off if you go away thinking you do, but no, it really doesn't.

This toxic way of thinking of needing to win conversations is also present in the first part of your anecdote where you claim that people used to "win" by asking you to calm down or stop using certain words. They're not trying to beat you, they're trying to engage in discourse that both sides can appreciate. If you literally cannot win an argument without resorting to namecalling or condescension, you really need to rethink the value proposition of your arguments.

And if you really think that you've won when people no longer want to engage with you, then, like I said before, maybe everyone is better off that way.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Boop beep I got delete.