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In February, HouseFresh managing editor Gisele Navarro called out publishers like BuzzFeed and Rolling Stone as some of the culprits that publish content about air purifiers despite a lack of expertise — but Google rewards these sites with high rankings all the same. The result is a search results page filled with SEO-first content, designed to do not much more than rank highly on Google.

In a piece published today, she says HouseFresh has “virtually disappeared” from search results: search traffic has decreased 91 percent in recent months, from around 4,000 visitors a day in October 2023 to 200 a day today.

“We lost rankings we held for months (and sometimes years) for articles that are constantly being updated and improved based on findings from our first-hand and in-depth testing, our long-term experience with the products, and feedback from our readers,” Navarro writes. “Our article [previously ranked at #2] is now buried deep beneath sponsored posts, Quora advice from 2016, best-of lists from big media sites, and no less than 64 Google Shopping product listings. Sixty. Four.”

SEO-first affiliate content is being deployed ruthlessly at countless sites.

There is no obvious editorial necessity for Forbes to write articles like “Top 20 Largest Dog Breeds” or “What Fruits Can Dogs Eat?” — until you take a look at the sidebar of these stories, which are filled with dozens of affiliate links for pet insurance that Forbes gets a kickback from every time someone signs up.

Last year, when CNET was discovered to be using artificial intelligence tools to produce dozens of stories, it was SEO-heavy “evergreen” articles it focused on first. In the cases of Sports Illustrated and USA Today’s AI content debacles, it also was product reviews that were being churned out using automation tools.

The aggressive targeting of top Google search spots — with or without AI — by big media outlets affects small sites like HouseFresh the most. A significant loss of traffic for independent publishers is often enough to shutter an outlet entirely.

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[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 102 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

I want a search engine addon that allows blacklists, specifically ones that block every site that pumps out AI generated stories, preferably crowd-sourced. CNET would be the first one.
I’m sick of the internet at its current state, and it’s visibly getting worse day to day. I don’t even know how to search for shit and recommendations when planning to buy something.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is exactly why people started appending "site:www.reddit.com" to their searches. It was much easier (but not guaranteed) to find organic discussion and reviews of products.

Of course, nothing gold can stay, and this tarnish appeared by way of pigfucker Spez making Reddit worse by allowing corporations to flood the site with bots in the name of boosting MAUs for the IPO. That said, I can appreciate the position Google is in- how do you get to be a search engine of such size that your users can trust your results you deliver to them, filter out SEO spam, and have the whole system automated due to costs?

Or rather, I would appreciate that position, if Google were more interested in quality search results than in spam advertising.

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I would guess you could allow people to create custom search blacklists. People could upload theirs and people would vote them up or down.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Kagi is a paid search engine. It allows you to uprank or downrank specific webpages. In that sense it's very powerful.

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I’ve heard of it but I don’t like the idea of having search queries associated with my credit card, even though they say they don’t do that.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

But if you don't pay directly for a good search engine, aren't they forced to use ads to fund it? And then you end up with Google. Or is there a third option?

[–] iarigby@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

they can give an option to use anonymous forms of payment. Credit card only is aggressively anti privacy

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Didn’t think this through, did I… But DDG works for now

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

I paid for discord nitro, didn't stop them from adding ads.

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but aren't they getting enshitified? There was a comment a long ago saying Kagi was looking for more ways to monetize or something

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Everything trends that way. Maybe if it was held by a municipality like a public trust or co-op things could be stable for longer

[–] br3d@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Have a look at marginalia.nu - it's like a return to the old days

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

im not aware of what you want, but ceo bullshit is usually made to trick google search. any other engine will be better, even bing is unironically superior to google rn.

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 1 points 6 months ago

So you want Kagi